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Discussion in 'Star Wars: Episode VII and Beyond (Archive)' started by yodasbum, Nov 2, 2012.

  1. yodasbum

    yodasbum Jedi Master star 2

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    Kyber Crystal

    Whills

    Starkiller

    Female lead (Little person lead done in Willow)

    Any other concepts that could be recycled and how? In the PT we had Mace Windu/Utapau/air whales
     
  2. SithStarSlayer

    SithStarSlayer Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    You can cross Rhett Starkiller off the list.:p
     
  3. robot120

    robot120 Jedi Master star 2

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    There is a bunch of stuff in the Annotated Screenplays. For example, Han Solo was supposed to be a green gilled alien.

    And then there was a cool opening sequence where a spaceship crash lands on Tatooine and there is a father (jedi) with 2 sons inside. And they start off on a journey and encounter a Sith in the desert.
     
  4. kevmp

    kevmp Jedi Knight star 3

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    That was basically used in TPM, Qui-Gon and Anakin encountering Maul in the desert
     
  5. kevmp

    kevmp Jedi Knight star 3

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    Maybe we will finally see who and what the Whills are, not just the teasing vague reference they got in ROTS
     
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  6. kevmp

    kevmp Jedi Knight star 3

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    Also used in the PT was the idea of a decoy princess/queen, and the term "padawaan" for an apprentice

    I always liked this bit from the end of the second draft of ANH:
    The Starkiller would once
    again spark fear in the
    hearts of the Sith knights,
    but not before his sons
    were put to many tests...
    the most daring of which was
    the kidnapping of the Lars
    family, and the perilous
    search for:
    "THE PRINCESS OF ONDOS."
     
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  7. aguywithabiggun

    aguywithabiggun Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    weird stuffo_O
     
  8. davvi36

    davvi36 Jedi Youngling

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    what's the Kyber cristal supposed to be? Something like the Caiburr crystal from the EU?
     
  9. Angel Eyes

    Angel Eyes Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Yellow saber crystal that can cut other sabers me thinks?
     
  10. JoinTheSchwarz

    JoinTheSchwarz JC Head Admin & Community Manager star 8 Staff Member Administrator

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    Similar to the EU concept, yes. It was something needed for the main hero to focus the Force. A MacGuffin.
     
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  11. kevmp

    kevmp Jedi Knight star 3

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    Basically the MacGuffin got transferred from the Kaiburr crystal to the droids/death star plans.
     
  12. kevmp

    kevmp Jedi Knight star 3

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    How about the Legions of Lettow and Dai Bendu being used? the names have been used fleetingly in the EU, I always kind of liked the sound of them
     
  13. kevmp

    kevmp Jedi Knight star 3

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    Cos Da****, Crispin Hoedaack, Aquilae, Granicus, Baltarian, Vantos Coll, to name a few, and my personal favorite: 'Bum-Bum Extract"....I mention these because a lot of names that made it into the PT were from the ANH rough drafts
     
  14. SithStarSlayer

    SithStarSlayer Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Does using Cosinga as father Palpatine's name, count?:p
     
  15. Diggs

    Diggs Jedi Master star 4

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    Kyber crystal is the obvious one for me. Ties into the force, is a little mystical and a great, simple mcguffin.
     
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  16. Debo

    Debo Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    There's a nice book that might help here: The Secret History of Star Wars. There's also a website.
     
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  17. Darthgoodguy

    Darthgoodguy Jedi Knight star 1

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    When was that referenced in ROTS?
     
  18. TaradosGon

    TaradosGon Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    The Kyber crystal was used in TCW as a crystal that could be joined with a holocron and documented the names of all known Force users in the galaxy
    .
     
  19. The-Eternal-Hero

    The-Eternal-Hero Jedi Knight star 4

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    The PT & TCW pretty much used that side of GL up. I doubt Disney's gonna go for some crazy, deeply mythological, surreal take on SW. This is gonna be really safe stuff. But I personally love the proto-SW, the PT, TCW etc. But that's winding down, as the commercial SW emerges again.
     
  20. cotillion

    cotillion Jedi Youngling

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    Im happy that we never have to have a Macguffin again.
     
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  21. VadersLaMent

    VadersLaMent 2017 Celebrity Deathpool Winner star 10

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    One of my fav moments playing LOTOR2 was finding the Kaiburr Crystal after looting the corpse of a Sith Lord as I am old enough to have gotten and read Splinter of the Mind's Eye when it was first published.
     
  22. Diggs

    Diggs Jedi Master star 4

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    What's wrong with a McGuffin? Worked just fine for the Death Star plans. Not saying you have to have one but I can't see what is inherently bad about having one - depends on the execution.
     
  23. kevmp

    kevmp Jedi Knight star 3

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    It was never explicitly stated in the movie, but qui-gon learned how to maintain his identity after death ie become a force ghost from a shaman of the Whills. It was mentioned in the shooting script and novelization. There was supposed to be a scene of yoda talking to qui-gon that was ultimately not filmed, and qui-gon reveals he learned the secret from a shaman of he Whills
     
  24. Ghost

    Ghost Chosen One star 7

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    wasn't it mentioned in the yoda-kenobi scene too?
     
  25. syferdiasisalie

    syferdiasisalie Jedi Master star 3

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    My definition of a MacGuffin would be an item that serves no purpose in the plot other than to motivate the characters to acquire it. The Death Star plans served a causal purpose in the plot by allowing the rebels to know the weakness of the Death Star.