Official Info Known unused Lucas Star Wars concepts

Discussion in 'Star Wars: Episode VII and Beyond (Archive)' started by yodasbum, Nov 2, 2012.

  1. yodasbum Force Ghost

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    Kyber Crystal

    Whills

    Starkiller

    Female lead (Little person lead done in Willow)

    Any other concepts that could be recycled and how? In the PT we had Mace Windu/Utapau/air whales
  2. SithStarSlayer Manager Emeritus

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    You can cross Rhett Starkiller off the list.:p
  3. robot120 Jedi Knight

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    There is a bunch of stuff in the Annotated Screenplays. For example, Han Solo was supposed to be a green gilled alien.

    And then there was a cool opening sequence where a spaceship crash lands on Tatooine and there is a father (jedi) with 2 sons inside. And they start off on a journey and encounter a Sith in the desert.
  4. kevmp Jedi Grand Master

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    That was basically used in TPM, Qui-Gon and Anakin encountering Maul in the desert
  5. kevmp Jedi Grand Master

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    Maybe we will finally see who and what the Whills are, not just the teasing vague reference they got in ROTS
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  6. kevmp Jedi Grand Master

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    Also used in the PT was the idea of a decoy princess/queen, and the term "padawaan" for an apprentice

    I always liked this bit from the end of the second draft of ANH:
    The Starkiller would once
    again spark fear in the
    hearts of the Sith knights,
    but not before his sons
    were put to many tests...
    the most daring of which was
    the kidnapping of the Lars
    family, and the perilous
    search for:
    "THE PRINCESS OF ONDOS."
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  7. aguywithabiggun Force Ghost

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  8. davvi36 Jedi Youngling

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    what's the Kyber cristal supposed to be? Something like the Caiburr crystal from the EU?
  9. Angel Eyes Jedi Padawan

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    Yellow saber crystal that can cut other sabers me thinks?
  10. JoinTheSchwarz Comms Admin & Community Manager

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    Similar to the EU concept, yes. It was something needed for the main hero to focus the Force. A MacGuffin.
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  11. kevmp Jedi Grand Master

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    Basically the MacGuffin got transferred from the Kaiburr crystal to the droids/death star plans.
  12. kevmp Jedi Grand Master

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    How about the Legions of Lettow and Dai Bendu being used? the names have been used fleetingly in the EU, I always kind of liked the sound of them
  13. kevmp Jedi Grand Master

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    Cos Dashit, Crispin Hoedaack, Aquilae, Granicus, Baltarian, Vantos Coll, to name a few, and my personal favorite: 'Bum-Bum Extract"....I mention these because a lot of names that made it into the PT were from the ANH rough drafts
  14. SithStarSlayer Manager Emeritus

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    Does using Cosinga as father Palpatine's name, count?:p
  15. Diggs Force Ghost

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    Kyber crystal is the obvious one for me. Ties into the force, is a little mystical and a great, simple mcguffin.
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  16. Debo Force Ghost

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    There's a nice book that might help here: The Secret History of Star Wars. There's also a website.
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  17. Darthgoodguy Jedi Master

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    When was that referenced in ROTS?
  18. TaradosGon SWTV Mod - Like Palpatine with animals

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    The Kyber crystal was used in TCW as a crystal that could be joined with a holocron and documented the names of all known Force users in the galaxy
    .
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  19. The-Eternal-Hero Force Ghost

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    The PT & TCW pretty much used that side of GL up. I doubt Disney's gonna go for some crazy, deeply mythological, surreal take on SW. This is gonna be really safe stuff. But I personally love the proto-SW, the PT, TCW etc. But that's winding down, as the commercial SW emerges again.
  20. cotillion Jedi Padawan

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    Im happy that we never have to have a Macguffin again.
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  21. VadersLaMent Chosen One

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    One of my fav moments playing LOTOR2 was finding the Kaiburr Crystal after looting the corpse of a Sith Lord as I am old enough to have gotten and read Splinter of the Mind's Eye when it was first published.
  22. Diggs Force Ghost

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    What's wrong with a McGuffin? Worked just fine for the Death Star plans. Not saying you have to have one but I can't see what is inherently bad about having one - depends on the execution.
  23. kevmp Jedi Grand Master

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    It was never explicitly stated in the movie, but qui-gon learned how to maintain his identity after death ie become a force ghost from a shaman of the Whills. It was mentioned in the shooting script and novelization. There was supposed to be a scene of yoda talking to qui-gon that was ultimately not filmed, and qui-gon reveals he learned the secret from a shaman of he Whills
  24. Ghost Chosen One

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    wasn't it mentioned in the yoda-kenobi scene too?
  25. syferdiasisalie Force Ghost

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    My definition of a MacGuffin would be an item that serves no purpose in the plot other than to motivate the characters to acquire it. The Death Star plans served a causal purpose in the plot by allowing the rebels to know the weakness of the Death Star.