ST Kylo Ren and Rey in VIII and IX (See new guidelines on page 228)

This is what Kathleen Kennedy says on the matter, most important line, IMO, is what I put in red:

“[Q] You really wanted Adam Driver for this role. What made him the perfect Kylo Ren ?​

[KK] I had the opportunity to work with Adam on Lincoln. That was our first met. From the moment we started to think about this character, Kylo Ren, Adam was an obvious choice to me, and one of the few actors who could play him. J.J didn’t know him as well as I did, but he was immediately convinced when they met. He was one of the first actors we had considered for the role and it was an early decision. One of the most interesting aspects of Kylo Ren is his young age. Most of the time, villains are damaged, troubled and older. Making the new Star Wars villain a 30 years old man was a captivating choice. We could take advantage from a troubled adolescence and a past we know very little about. There we could find this tension between light and dark which dominates all the Star Wars universe. We could use it as a metaphor for the path that leads a young adult to his accomplished adult life. The characters who can be drawn to the dark side and seduced by all sorts of experiences that might be dangerous are compelling for us. For today’s audience it’s an original, fascinating and appealing character.​

When we look at our own lives, it all depends on the choices we’ve made. Kylo Ren seems to have taken many bad decisions, but they aren’t necessarily bad decisions within the context of Star Wars, where they can lead to almost anything. This story reflects the real world. Many kids evolve in a political environment that can be difficult to decipher, and many events suggest that people are drawn to danger, trouble and agitation. In terms of international policy, there’s a sense that we live a time full of upheavals. The political structure of the Star Wars narratives reflects this in a unique way. Kylo Ren represents this dark side of society that can be appealing when we don’t know which side to choose and right and wrong become very vague concepts. All these aspects make Kylo Ren a really complex character and offer us many different options for future plots.”​

Here's the link to the original interview in French, from French Star Wars magazine:

http://thehermitsacedia.tumblr.com/post/140041132904/kathleen-kennedy-on-kylo-ren

 

Interesting that she says "this story reflects the real world," when people are constantly saying "ignore the real world!" when it comes to Kylo.

 

how would you guys feel if kylo maims rey in TLJ. I'm not really feeling that direction. Its predictable and its just some unspoken right of passage that jedi heroes, especially skywalkers, have to lose a limb. They're likely gonna make him best her in some form or fashion, but I just hope they don't go the dismember route.

 

I figure one of them is going to lose a limb. Could be a leg this time. Won't be shocked or angered in the least.

 

If plot requires it, the limbs are lost.

Luke lost a limb in ROTJ with a purpose - as a reminder that he could become like his father.
We'll see if they are taking that route again.

 

Let's look at Furious 7, where you got Jason Statham as a badass villain called Deckard Shaw with his epic fight against Vin Diesel and got sent to a super-secure slammer in the end... (Spoiler alert) Only to get released in Fast 8 as a reluctant ally of Hobbs & co., with yet another crazy bash-up session, this time with Dwayne Johnson, and Deckard ended up being accepted into the family after doing something good!

So maybe we will see Kylo Ren ending up this way? With him becoming a somewhat morally ambiguous character in The Last Jedi rather than a full-fledged villain, and everyone subsequently finding out that it was Snoke who was organizing everything behind the scenes... And Kylo finally redeeming himself fully by the time Episode IX rolls around...

 

Let's not.



...(Not to be rude)

 

I was just going to observe but I fear this is leading down a path that could see the thread locked again so let's change direction.

How does Kylo Ren's past actions complicate Rey's relationship with Luke and how does that feed back into how Kylo Ren and Rey deal with one another?

 

Prince and Princess of the new Jedi, sorry for the hype but they looks sensational:

 

I know it won't happen, but I LOVE the idea of Rey being marketed as a "princess" of sorts. Because wouldn't it be awesome if little girls imagined Rey when they "play princess"?

 

JoJoPenelli I'm sure that they are re-imaging Princess brand with independent, active, strong characters and that they may not call her a Princess but one can get the gist that Princess is now something else.

 

Wonderful!

 

Nothing can rain on my parade! I'm getting what I've always wanted which is

STAR WARS MEETS LOTR!!!!

Look at them! She's a Jedi, and he's a high fantasy Prince. My dream of merging SW and LOTR is coming true! Thank you Rey and Ren!

 

It will drive Kylo CRAZY to learn that - aside from becoming close with his father and piloting his father's ship, Rey is now being trained and (most likely) learning secrets/revelations about the Force from his uncle and - perhaps - is being seen by the family as the "true" Skywalker heir (even if she ends up not being a Skywalker by blood).

To some extent, Kylo sees himself as the rightful Skywalker heir. He may now superficially rejecting his family now, but I think one of his primary motivations to kill/defeat Rey may be pure jealousy. I love this idea because that be a motivation that is VERY understandable, and even somewhat relatable (vs just revenge for being humiliated).

 

Kylo's lightsaber looks normal there.

 

You mean the blade?

 

If this is true and Battlefront didn't alter them. I like the costumes a lot. Both appear badass, Rey especially.

Love how Rey has taken on a darker costume than Luke. She strikes me as more Anakin-esque in the lines and color of her outfit. Very jedi without a complete redux of what we've seen before.

And Kylo isn't as Vader-y as spoilers made it sound. it's his own look as well. Kind of a blend of the baddies like Dooku and Vader yet very much his own identity shines through

I like these outfits. They will help to define the characters more.

 

Impossible to determine from such small resolution. We need higher resolution to say for sure. But I believe it's still unstable, judging by the teaser.

 

Also remember they are video game renderings, so lower your expectation a bit. These aren't stills from the film or promo shots of the actual actors.

 

It say's movie production stills, am confused. Also I know that Rey is Chloe Bruce who is also Rey in the movie? Am a bit confused now.

 

Birkendoc definitely Anakin colors on Rey but lighter:



of course, this is just an excuse to post Hayden's hotness.

Dark Horse No confusion, you get exclusive movie production stills of Rey and Ren with pre-order. It was advertised with the first Kylo image (which was from the game but based on TLJ).

Kenobis were quick to point out Kenobi color sheme

 

i FEEL like kylo could maim rey and she loses a hand as long as they do a bunch of other different stuff this would be a nice throwback.

 

Maiming made sense in OT because of the "more machine than a man" thing (and later, of course, PT had to explain what led to it). But they aren't going in that direction here. Also, Daisy is heavily hinting at sustaining an emotionally injury. We don't know who or what hurts her feelings, though.