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Lit L-Canon -- or, Taking Matters Into Our Own Hands (Final Results Announced)

Discussion in 'Literature' started by CooperTFN, Mar 6, 2013.

  1. Starkeiller

    Starkeiller Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    The whole point is to play by the rules. Where's the fun if we're to start breaking them again?

    I think the same of E, the obviously clean and simple way out. Is it really in the spirit of L-Canon? I mean, is not the point to work only with what we have? And don't we have that image, drawn the way it is, placed where it is in the timeline? I was a nonbeliever in Barriss, and now I see in her with pride Star Wars's very own "Felucian Candidate".
     
  2. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 7 VIP

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    [​IMG]
     
  3. credar

    credar Jedi Master star 3

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    Is that suppose to be the shell of the DS2? Or some shipyard.
     
  4. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Chosen One star 8

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    I still go for A because I actually do believe the Emperor would mange to whip up a Death Star from ground zero to that stage in three months simply because he was really REALLY ticked off about what happened to his precious battle station at Yavin that he had been tinkering with for about 19 years. Then he starts using all kinds of motivational factors, maybe he dumped basically all of his his Dark Side adepts and inquisitors and every damn emperor's hand he has (aside from Mara, of course, who shall remain untainted) in a single star destroyer and yelled "MAKE THEM DO IT AGAIN AND FASTER!"
     
  5. RC-1991

    RC-1991 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    That's the Dac shipyards.
     
  6. credar

    credar Jedi Master star 3

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    I fail to see the point the picture is attempting to make... [face_dunno]
     
  7. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 7 VIP

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    Is there any reason Battle Meditation couldn't work on construction workers? [face_whistling]
     
  8. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Chosen One star 8

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    That, robots that work around the clock, general Sith menace, geonosians who are forced to actually work as opposed to goofing off at their arena spectator sporting events, etc.
     
  9. AdmiralWesJanson

    AdmiralWesJanson Force Ghost star 5

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    F. Well, we know that prior to Yavin there were components for the DS II going around, so while it may not have been officially ordered, the Empire was probably stocking up on long lead-time parts and pre-fab components, ready to build a larger version. They make the order, start assembling the parts rather quickly, then have to stop while Lemenisk redesigns the thing, so it sits at the roughly same level of construction while the redesign happens, meanwhile prefab sections are being built for when work starts again.
     
  10. Havac

    Havac Former Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    It's an example of artistic license in action. If that picture were 100% accurate, the shipyards would be unspeakably enormous, as well as increasingly massive on the far side of the planet such that it creates a perfect forced-perspective effect for no particular reason. Also, that Super Star Destroyer on the right would be about the size of a continent, which it isn't. Randy Stradley has, in fact, confirmed that this was just artistic license to show the shipyards without getting into issues of actual perspective, where they would appear as a tiny ring around the planet and diminish into invisibility as they circle around Dac.
     
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  11. credar

    credar Jedi Master star 3

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    Ahhh. Now I see. Grazi.
     
  12. CeiranHarmony

    CeiranHarmony Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    well... given the previous idea of DS2 starting construction already before ANH makes sense, it is not 3 months but few years actually. and after DS1 destruction it is reasonable to halt construction for redesigns and changes so that is why it took 3 years then besides the Empire had to divert ressources to stock up their fleet and Superstardestroyer constructions in order to better hunt the rebels. so DS construction went slower.
     
  13. CeiranHarmony

    CeiranHarmony Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    why not use geonosian brainworms on workers to make them do whatever you want?
     
  14. CeiranHarmony

    CeiranHarmony Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    someone saxtonian give me the size of those Stardestroyers docked in the right part of the image please!!!

    I still do not buy this is artistic license.. I want to to be real, I so want it to be! PLEASE
     
  15. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Chosen One star 10

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    I think it was extrapolating from Zahn's stories. In one of the Mos Eisley tales, Zahn has Shada and Karoly involved with a Rebel effort to obtain a prototype component marked "Death Star Mark II" and in Choices of One, set 9 months after the Battle of Yavin, we see a DS2 above Endor that already resembles a half-sphere.
     
  16. Zorrixor

    Zorrixor Chosen One star 6

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    Maybe it is real and Dac is really just an artificial aquatic worldship that's smaller than a real planet. :p
     
  17. CeiranHarmony

    CeiranHarmony Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    the thing with the superstardestroyer on the right looks like not part of the ring btw... more like in front of it much closer to the viewer.. so the ship sizes could be safe even if the ring were real..
     
  18. Zorrixor

    Zorrixor Chosen One star 6

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    I'm still saying Dac is secretly a Celestial worldship. :p
     
  19. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 7 VIP

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    Wonder how Nick would feel about that.
     
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  20. Zorrixor

    Zorrixor Chosen One star 6

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    Not as bad as when he finds out Mon Calamari slaves built it and that that was why Palpatine knew they'd make good superweapon construction workers. :p
     
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  21. Grand Admiral Crumb

    Grand Admiral Crumb Jedi Padawan star 1

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    Zorrixor Wait, if Mon Calamari are from Dac, but Dac was built by Mon Calamari, and Mon Calamari are from Dac, what?
     
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  22. CeiranHarmony

    CeiranHarmony Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    imagine that ring folding itself into a Death Star... it is a transformer in hiding mode!!! Zorrixor
     
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  23. Zorrixor

    Zorrixor Chosen One star 6

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    Precisely.

    Dac is in fact a Doomium-Armoured Craftworld.
     
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  24. Starkeiller

    Starkeiller Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Up til now we have:


    A. Empire be quick - 4​

    B. DS2 is made of other big stuff - 1​

    C. DS2 is DS1 - 2​

    D. They were making it before 0 BBY - 1​

    E. Artistic license -- it ain't that big - 1​

    F. They had the components ready. - 1​

    F really is no different than B. Both are saying that the Death Star's components were assembled rather than constructed from scratch. Both have one vote. Shouldn't they be merged in the interest of not splitting an already extraordinarily split vote?
     
  25. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Chosen One star 10

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    There's another picture, which makes the ship look more overtly docked:

    [​IMG]