I saw this film a while back and loved it. Yes the violence is eccessive, but not without reason. Ofelia lives in a brutal time and is surrounded by brutal people and this is shown in some of the films events. [hl=black]And then of course there are the beautifully designed fantasy moments. Pan looks amazing and Doug Jones gets extreme Kudos for acting in that suit and for learning and delivering his Spanish lines so well. And I'm personally in the camp of people that believe that everything that happens to Ofelia is really happening. OK, some people think that it's just in her head and the fantasy elements are Ofelia's way to escape her life. I think that when she dies at the end she really does go back home to her kingdom. Oh and this may have been me, but when Ofelia goes to her kingdom at the end is her mother/queen holding a baby? I was just wondering because I thought she was and I was like "That means she got to keep her promise to her brother that she would make him a prince"[/hl] In short the film is beautiful, horrific, enchanting and disturbing. In no way is it for kids but is something that shoudl be seen. I gotta see it again.