Lightsabers & Blasters LED Blade Q and A's

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  1. Do-Clo Force Ghost

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    Dec 5, 2005
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    I have no idea what happened but I was sure the link was there, oh well I will try this again here is the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPTDNZ_hOr4
  2. erv Jedi Knight

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    Oct 25, 2005
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    not very often there anymore but I'm pleased to announce Crystal Focus V4 !

    butter side of the toast (well... with caviar now)
    [image=http://www.plecterlabs.com/Media/CrystalFocusV4_001.jpg]

    the other side
    [image=http://www.plecterlabs.com/Media/CrystalFocusV4_002.jpg]

    so, for the news :
    - no ETA yet, I'm currently assembling 50, plus 50 to follow. First batch should be ready by the end of april, some parts are missing but are on the way to my lab.
    - I'm now mastering pretty well hot air soldering, takes me less than 1 minute to solder a motion sensor. Result is really close as if it's been soldered by a reflow oven.
    - V4 is using a micro SD ! faster to write to them, and smaller board (1.5 mm narrower). The board is thinner too. This shoudl be greatly appreciated cause room is always missing in a saber hilt.
    - new goodies : RGB support. Option to drive either a Red OR Green OR blue LED on a endor PCB. No color mixing cause CF does not have 3 luxeon drivers but just one. The optics are not there for the tri rebel but I demonstrate the possibility of the "concept" on my youtube channel
    - new RandomX selection mode for swing and clash sounds. 99% Ensures that you don't get twice the same sound in a sequence.
    - new Timed selection mode for swing and clash sound. The sounds are ordered from the shortest to the longest, the selection is made on a adjustable time scale, so that appropriate sound is played. Randomness is achieved by how the gestures a chained
    - multiple blater sounds (4).
    - second "force" sound, resulting of a combo of the aux button + clash (force fx 1 was aux button + equivalent of a swing). Allows to get a "special big clash" effect, like a HUGE clash sound.


    Some videos to watch
    CF V4 Roadmap part I
    CF V4 Roadmap part II
    CF V4 Roadmap part III

    Nothing about sabers, but I've also finished my voice amp + fx with static burst. Coded in 4 days, not that bad.
    Voice Core demo


    I've also finished my bench tool to make programming and testing CF boards easier and much faster
    [image=http://www.plecterlabs.com/Media/TheFakir_001.jpg]
    [image=http://www.plecterlabs.com/Media/TheFakir_002.jpg]
  3. TheMuffin Force Ghost

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    Nov 4, 2005
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    Micro-SD! Man that would so come in handy at the moment. My board is just slightly too large for what I wanted to do. So I've spent that last two days machining a new part. And definitely ain't an opportune time for it to be released on my part. Blew all my money on Hotel and registration for Botcon.

    But eventually, I will get my hands on this new board of yours. Glad it's getting easier to put them together Erv. And the new options sound great!
  4. Gunk Jedi Padawan

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    Apr 15, 2008
    Hey all, new to this board, but not new to Star Wars! Anyway, I'm looking into getting a "real" saber. "Real" meaning I want something that looks/sounds authentic and can be used for lots of dueling, also a removable blade would be nice. I've been looking at the HyperDyne blades and they look nice, I'm new to all of this so any tips on perhaps getting my own hilt and ordering an HyperDyne setup to fit inside it? Plus I'm not TOO tool savvy. Thanks again, any tips/links/tutorials would be appreciated.
  5. GreytaleNovastar1138 Jedi Master

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    Dec 8, 2005
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    Hi Gunk. .... (!). I never thought I'd say that. "Hi Gunk."

    Anyhow... well, you can check out this video (among others out there demonstrating sabers of many types):
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=7OQRAbt5z2Q
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=2iaDEhfd4yo

    There are more, but that gives you the idea of some of the videos on my youtube ID.

    Also... I'm trying to free up some time to get out there to the makers faire (http://www.makerfaire.com)... which is taking place VERY soon in CA, in the San Mateo area. I realize that most of the folks posting here are from all over the world, but... if you're in town, stop by. :)

    Hopefully I will be there doing SOMEthing random and saber-oriented. :)
  6. acerocket Jedi Knight

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    Jan 20, 2006
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    Well, I thought I'd post some pics of my latest saber.
    [image=http://www.orbitalmachining.com/assets/images/105.jpg]
    [image=http://www.orbitalmachining.com/assets/images/206.jpg]
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    [image=http://www.orbitalmachining.com/assets/images/10.jpg]
    [image=http://www.orbitalmachining.com/assets/images/11.jpg]

    And since this is the LED blade Q & A thread:
    [image=http://www.orbitalmachining.com/assets/images/1202.jpg]
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    [image=http://www.orbitalmachining.com/assets/images/16.jpg]
    [image=http://www.orbitalmachining.com/assets/images/17.jpg]

    I want to thank Zenkai for the awesome pics - he is now the happy owner.

  7. Evil-Henchman Force Ghost

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    Jul 17, 2004
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    Damn, nice work man. Do you have a CNC machine because the lines appear flawless? Very impressive.
  8. acerocket Jedi Knight

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    Jan 20, 2006
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    Well my post is not a for sale thread. I am just showing off the work I did for a customer. I know this forum frowns on using it as a sales means. I just spent a few months working on it and wanted to show it off.

    Oh, and yes I do have both a CNC lathe and mill.
  9. Evil-Henchman Force Ghost

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    Jul 17, 2004
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    I'm jealous. I just have a mini mill and mini lathe and cannot get lines that perfect. So... ah... where do you live and what are the dimensions and weight of your lathe and mill? ;)
  10. GreytaleNovastar1138 Jedi Master

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    Dec 8, 2005
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    I said it before, I'll say it again... "GREAT WORK KID, that was one in a million!!" heheheh

    Seriously, very nice replica Ace. It appears to be bar none (duh). SOOOOOO surprising coming from Ace. Like we'd expect it to be anything other than basically "Uber". heheheh

    Ace is about as meticulous with machining as I am with these gosh darn sound fonts. But for me... most all the credit goes to Ben Burtt!! At least for 50% of the fonts, since at least half are "classic sabers". Granted, things like Ancient saber and the Zen font (inspired by Jonitus' request) are my own work.
  11. erv Jedi Knight

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    Oct 25, 2005
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    whoo whoo !! beautiful obi ! makes my personnal one dull ! (I'm still happy I've build it anyway)
    Congrats ACE !
  12. GreytaleNovastar1138 Jedi Master

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    Dec 8, 2005
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    Hey cool... speaking of AceRocket (that's Erik)... he recently put me in contact with this gal from a company called Revision3. They were trying to do a quick & dirty "nerdy" saber construction vid, so... somehow it ended up working out that *I* ended up going up there to S.F. to get the stuff done.

    Novastar shows a basic saber on Revision3!
    http://revision3.com/popsiren/birdback/

    Check the video at about 23:33.

    Now, obviously some things had to be cut out of the video for brevity's sake (such as the optics, LED, how it mounts, resistor and/or battery solutions, other tiny details), but... it was fun, and who knows, maybe it will open more doors for me to get back in there and start talking about TCSS, Ultra, Erv, etc. etc. etc.

    I also brought Dani Cox along ("Alexandra Novastar" from BOP II), in hopes that Rev3 would allow HER to get some facetime on the camera, but, alas--they didn't allow it. Which kinda sucks since if ANYONE'S a star--it's Dani. She was the one with the most talent over ALL of us in BOP II--that's my story and I'm stickin' to it. :)

    The Flange III green saber also pops up out of nowhere, heheh... :)

    One funny thing is... later near the end of her segment (while she's outside near the water), she mentions "champagne bottles" and how some people have used parts from them... LOL.... well, that PROBABLY came from a little blurb I mentioned when showing her the Flange III sabers, since... well... the green Flange III *DOES* use a little emblem-like piece from a champagne bottle, hahahahah!

    Anyhow... take care... and have fun with your lightsabers!

    Man did *I* look like a geek, hahahahahah! :)
  13. Corbin-Das Jedi Knight

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    Nov 28, 2005
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    Hi all.
    It's been a while since I posted, but I just wanted to say congrats to Ace for the great saber and to Erv' for the new driver board (I need to get at least one! LOL).


    Corbin
  14. Corbin-Das Jedi Knight

    Member Since:
    Nov 28, 2005
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    Hi again
    Sorry for the double post, though it's been a few days since my last post, so I'm not sure if that still qualifies. LOL

    Anyway, I just wanted folks to know that the latest version of my LED saber driver is just getting finished. They are much smaller than the old boards, which were 1.25 wide x 1.625 long. These new ones will be 0.8 wide x 1.1 long, so they'll fit into much smaller areas.
    Also, in addition to all the original features like ramp up/down, flash on impact and lockup, these new boards also can provide a constant shimmer to the blade when on. It's subtle enough to not be annoying, but still noticable enough to give the blade some "life", so to speak.


    Hopefully they'll work well. I haven't received the actual board yet, but I just wanted to let people know about them. I'll post something once I have one hooked up.

    Corbin
  15. Evil-Henchman Force Ghost

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    Jul 17, 2004
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    Nice, looking forward to seeing one in action. Will the shimmer be a random sequence/frequency (please say yes)?
  16. Corbin-Das Jedi Knight

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    Nov 28, 2005
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    Hi Henchman
    The shimmer has a set range that it will shimmer with, so it won't get too low to look like the thing is shorting out. I'll need to verify with my driver guy if the values are pre-set or if they're random. I want to say random (within a pre-set mA range), but I'm not 100% sure on that.


    Corbin
  17. GreytaleNovastar1138 Jedi Master

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    Dec 8, 2005
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    Updates for my upcoming Sound CD:

    * New, alternate hum mixture & lockup that is more "screen accurate" for Episode II. So... now there are TWO versions of EP II.

    * SW Episode V and Episode VI fonts being added... I took these sounds directly from the movies and worked them in a way so that music and foley sounds are not present, so... they're about as screen accurate as you'll hear (to a point). They have SOME of "my own" flair added, but... not much!

    * SW Electro Staff being added...

    * "Magic Saber" font almost complete

    * A bunch of video tutorials on mixing your OWN sounds (using Goldwave), and also a tutorial on how to correctly copy files over to your SD card without causing problems.

    * Bonus sound library is getting RIDICULOUS, and that is a GOOD thing! It means a wonderous variety of sounds for people to work from and with... and in combination with the tutorials... ANYONE will be able to try their hand at soundmaking for CF!

    List of fonts that will 100% for certain DEFINITELY be on the CD:
    (and this means "new" versions in some cases!)
    ...in alphabetical order:

    * Ancient Saber
    * Blackstar
    * Chainsaw!
    * Elemental: H2O
    * Indiana Jones Whip
    * Kung Fu Fightin'!
    * Elemental: Magic
    * Nano Deus Tachi
    * NecroVolt Staff
    * Novastar
    * Phoenix Pyre (also doubles as "Elemental: Fire" in a way!)
    * Satori 'Zen' Saber (inspired by Jonitus' request for sound)
    * Steel Sword
    * SW Electro Staff
    * SW Episode I -- (extremely screen accurate)
    * SW Episode II -- (two versions now! newest more screen acc.)
    * SW Episode IV -- (now with more lockup sounds to select!)
    * SW Episode V -- (extremely screen accurate)
    * SW Episode VI -- (extremely screen accurate)


    THAT'S NINETEEN FONTS!!

    I'll shoot for at least 20 though... heheh

    List of fonts that are currently being jerks to me and not going as I'd hoped:

    * Video Game Font -- (it's harder to choose what sounds to use than I thought)
    * Elemental: Earth -- (it's coming along, but... I'm having trouble with selecting some sounds)
    * That's it!


    Ok... back to work I go...
  18. Greybaine Jedi Padawan

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    Dec 19, 2007
    I have another new question. Has anyone checked out the p7's? They push out a god aweful amount of light. The only thing is.... I can't find a colminating lens for it. Will a cone reflector work just as well?
  19. Evil-Henchman Force Ghost

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    Jul 17, 2004
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    Hi all, below are some pics of my latest creation.

    It's my first attempt at a double-bladed hilt as well as my first attempt doing brass inlay work. It's also my first attempt at wiring up and installing Luxeon LEDs (the LED holder that I posted earlier in this thread was never used by me to hold a wired up LED).

    I made the 2 handle pieces and one of the emitters last year but let it sit for awhile so that I could work on some single-bladed hilts. The flush mounted screws in the center of the hilt are just for looks as the 2 main handle pieces are permanately attached via JB weld to a hollowed out center piece. I used two Luxeon III red/orange LEDs and two revamped versions of my LED holder.

    I learned a lot of what not to do while making this hilt and it was a major pain at times. As such, it may be a long time before I make another double-bladed hilt. It's not as pretty as what other saber makers can do but I'm still learning and hope to improve.

    [image=http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y237/Evil-Henchman/ARKM%20Saber%20Hilts/Saber12-01.jpg]
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  20. Corbin-Das Jedi Knight

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    Nov 28, 2005
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    I like the brass inlays Henchman. Good job. [face_peace]

    Novastar, that's a whole lot of fonts. Pretty cool stuff. I'm thinking of some type of steampunk/cyberpunk saber and was trying to think what something like that might sound like. I might end up using that "killer bee" sound as a base. We'll see.
    For those that don't know what I'm talking about, I have a recording of a swarm of African killer bees that's digitally altered to sound almost like a sparky sort of plasma discharge. It's hard to explain, but I like it. I had originally thought of having the font used in the Killer Penny saber. I suppose if I got one together, I still might.

    Corbin
  21. GreytaleNovastar1138 Jedi Master

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    Dec 8, 2005
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    Henchman... nice work--does it have sound? I thought I saw some speaker holes...

    Corbin... well, SOMEone on TCSS has already made SOME kind of "steampunk" font. I'll be the first to admit: I have no idea what a steampunk is, but... that word has been thrown around there enough and the sound font is indeed there somewhere.

    Another gent on there made an EXCELLENT font which he calls "Holy Reaver". I think it's pretty nice, and definitely has a unique sound.
  22. Evil-Henchman Force Ghost

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    Jul 17, 2004
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    Sadly no. I hope to make a saber with sound one of these days though.
  23. Greybaine Jedi Padawan

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    Dec 19, 2007
    Has anyone used a ssc p7 before in their saber? If so, how did you mount it and where did you get a culminating lens for it? From reading the specs on it I know it will need more than the average heat sinking. Also being larger than the average led it can't use a common lens. I found a driver for it but it is only a typical flashlight driver with strobe, s.o.s., high, med, low. No clash or other fun stuff. If anybody has any input, I would be more than happy to listen.
  24. Jedi-Loreen Jedi Master

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    Dec 2, 2002
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    I believe you mean "collimating" lens.

    You don't want to terminate the light beam, you want to sort of focus it into a tighter beam so that it doesn't spread out too much as it travels down the blade. ;)

    I'm not sure what kind of LED that is, but not every one has optics that will work with them.
  25. Corbin-Das Jedi Knight

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    Nov 28, 2005
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    I've yet to see a good reflector or optics for the SSC P7. This is the closest one, but it's 2" around:

    Link

    Here's a smaller one that you might be able to modify:

    Link 2

    Link 3

    I hope this helps


    On another note, I know some of you have emailed me about my new driver. Here's the specs:

    This new saber driver utilizes all the features of the original, only with more power in a smaller package.
    Another feature this driver has is a static shimmer that makes the blade look more ?alive?.

    * Ramp up/down, static shimmer, optional flash on impact and lockup

    * Maximum input voltage has been increased to 30V from the previous 12V

    * Maximum output voltage has been increased to 25V. Rebel compatible.

    * Uses less than 0.2mA when sleeping (turned off, with power to driver)

    * Size is reduced by 35%, 0.80 x 1.1 from previous 1.25 x 1.625

    * Pulsed Width Modulation averages 1A output with 1.2A when ?clashing?

    * On board micro on/off switch with contacts for remote switch



    Corbin
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