Lightsabers & Blasters LED sequence lightsaber (hyperdyne, MR, jmumby)

Discussion in 'Costuming and Props' started by Arlaman, Apr 27, 2006.

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  1. Arlaman Jedi Padawan

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    Nov 14, 2005
    Sine I didn't want to derail Ultra's thread and since this really is a different lightsaber construction than the single Luxeon saber. I figured it was time for a new Thread. Hyperdyne has made some really beautiful ones
    http://www.hyperdynelabs.com/hyperblade/main.php
    And Master Replica's use this technique as I'm sure most are aware.

    Here is the only Tutorial I found on the subject
    http://www.instructables.com/ex/i/AAF8760208351029BC4A001143E7E506/?ALLSTEPS

    I hope we can get a similar tutorial started for those who would like to make thier own style saber. And let me state this we all appriciate the differences between LED, EL and LED sequence lighsabers. I don't want this to become a this is better than that thread. I just want a constructive forum for this type of lightsaber. Because it is completly differnt from single Luxeon sabers.

    Thank you.
  2. Arlaman Jedi Padawan

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    Nov 14, 2005
    [image=http://www.oznium.com/forum/images/diagrams/10.gif]

    here are some simple diagrams I've found.

    [image=http://www.oznium.com/forum/images/diagrams/11.gif]



  3. FETT-MAN Jedi Master

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    Nov 21, 2005
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    So, unlike with an FX saber the LED's don't get damaged and form blotches right? Because that's the only thing holding me back from dueling with my FX saber.
  4. RogueKniet Jedi Knight

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    Sep 28, 2005
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    This will become a very cool forum!:cool: I personally prefer the full "lit" saber look such as MR but you can't go to town on them like Ultra blades!
  5. Arlaman Jedi Padawan

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    Nov 14, 2005
    Well I guess I'll start by posting the parts I was looking at. Unfortunately I'm not much of an electrician.
    But I was thinking that I would use these LED's

    http://www.besthongkong.com/index.php?cPath=7

    They are wide angle 120 degrees.

    http://www.besthongkong.com/index.php?cPath=18

    or these

    I would probally start with 50 of them aranged on 5 boards at 10 a peice.

    The only problem is that I would have to mount them back to back or on on top of each other.

    I have yet to see any LED strips for sale that are not one sided. But if you could get two of those back to back I think it would work.
  6. Arlaman Jedi Padawan

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    Nov 14, 2005
    Here is an LED array calculator it will show you how to wire the LED and pick out the reistors. I found it very helpful.

    http://led.linear1.org/led.wiz
  7. Do-Clo Force Ghost

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    Dec 5, 2005
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    Good start to your project, I like the full even lighting of the mr blade but it stnks to have it break on you and have dark spots. Mr should have done a better job on their blades.
  8. FETT-MAN Jedi Master

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    Nov 21, 2005
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    No one answered my question: unlike MR, these don't form dark splotches, right? Also, is the blade removable when hooked up? I don't really think so but it never hurts to ask.
  9. Do-Clo Force Ghost

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    If it is built with a multi pin connector on the base of the blade it would be removable.
  10. FETT-MAN Jedi Master

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    And no dark splotches I assume, right? Hm... might take this into consideration. Too bad no purple... I'd probably get a red since my FX is green. Also, could this in some way be put into a curved hilt?
  11. xwingband Jedi Knight

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    Aug 25, 2001
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    Depends on the LED strength and diffuser. If you diffuse it too much or too little there will be splotches. You have to find a nice medium, which is really hard.

    Also, the problems with curved hilts is making a hollow curve, not the electronics themselves. A bent pipe will flatten on one side. Most "curved" sabers I have seen are actually angled.
  12. FETT-MAN Jedi Master

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    Nov 21, 2005
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    Angled, yeah I gottcha. Dooku's saber is actually more like three sections instead of one smooth curve. So if angled and the right diffuser you could theoretically make it happen? Also, out of all the pics I've seen on that site, I didn't see any double-bladed sabers. If you were to mod a Darth Maul I'm sure this would be possible. Correct me if I'm wrong.
  13. xwingband Jedi Knight

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    Aug 25, 2001
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    As long as the emitter is straight long enough for the hilt to have a good hold on the blade there is nothing stopping anyone from making a curved hilt... except the part about actually getting it curved in the first place. I have only seen found parts that were already curved used.
  14. FETT-MAN Jedi Master

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    As mentioned before, it's not 'curved' persay. It's angled. I've noticed hasbro has a dooku electronic saber, but the emitter is too long of a shaft. The prop has three sections, and the toy only has two.
  15. Lingarn Jedi Padawan

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    Sep 25, 2005
    Does anyone actually have a hyperdyne saber yet?

    A lot of his parts have gone out of stock since they became available...
  16. FETT-MAN Jedi Master

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    Nov 21, 2005
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    I'm saving up for my next fx saber, so I can't really invest in one of these. Sure would love to have one, though.
  17. RogueKniet Jedi Knight

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    I hope this thread is still going, been quiet here a long time.
    Anywayz here is my newly converted darth vader lightsaber! Now I call it Jedi Vader!:cool:
    Pretty much just swaped led arrays and completly re-wired the conections to but it works and has all the functions as normal. Sound, led sequence (power up, down)

    [image=http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c144/roguekniet/87f0cce4.jpg]

    [image=http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c144/roguekniet/8ec03841.jpg]


    and my sith luke lightsaber

    [image=http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c144/roguekniet/79f0392b.jpg]

    [image=http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c144/roguekniet/610ff964.jpg]

    This isn't like hyperdyne's saber this basic MR sabers.
    BTW has anyone got one of those yet?
  18. FETT-MAN Jedi Master

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    Someone did, and wrote a review on it. Check it out. Cool sabers!
  19. RogueKniet Jedi Knight

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    Wassup Again I've just to much time on my hands I just made this for my son's friend it's a vader hilt with green blade, this has all the sounds and led sequence. Kinda gives off a Yoda-ish look.:cool: [image=http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c144/roguekniet/4ac47cf4.jpg]

    [image=http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c144/roguekniet/2bcd8927.jpg]

    [image=http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c144/roguekniet/bdadbfde.jpg]
  20. Imperial_Birrer Jedi Master

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    Dont own one, But he did let me play with one at a con. all I have to say is [homer]mmmHyperyne saber =P~ [/homer]. I am a bit biased since I know him, but his sabers are so freaking awsome.


  21. hyperdyne Force Ghost

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    Thanks birrer!

    Yeah, finally got a couple sabers to a con. Here is one of our local Vader's with one of my red Hyperblade MR refits. From the pics you can definitely appreciate how much light these sabers throw out! The red is very bright. :)

    [image=http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/8412/opus0601sm8ki.jpg]

    [image=http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/5123/opus0615sm1kq.jpg]

    The darker pic shows how much ambient light the saber throws, which is just plain absurd! :D Plus the above pic taken in a fully lit room gives you an idea of the brightness.

    Take into consideration the blade COULD even go brighter, I have it at a conservative setting right now. BTW, I have a new deluxe "limited edition" blade kit in the works - it will be brighter and showcase several new features I am excited about...


  22. Imperial_Birrer Jedi Master

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    I forgot you came to this board! My first time seeing your blade was Matt lighting up the room at 3am at the con,then swinging it around like there was a pinata only he could see. Funny thing was I was just about to post the pic from opus over here, great minds DO think alike.
  23. RogueKniet Jedi Knight

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    Sep 28, 2005
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    WOW Hyper! That vader lightsaber is just... WOW! that picture taken in the lit room, really shows the brightness of you blades.
    I can imagine your green saber, since green just looks brighter.

    Is that automotive type leds? or Maybe Traffic light leds? Your using in your blades?

    :cool: Just trying to squeeze some info, LOL:D
  24. hyperdyne Force Ghost

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    Nov 1, 2004
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    No they are not automotive or traffic light LEDs. They are just "special" LEDs. LOL

  25. jmumby Jedi Padawan

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    Jun 4, 2006
    For a circuit board layout for the 8 stage ignitor have a look here http://blog.myspace.com/jason_mumby .If you still want one fully assembled you are probably looking at about US$30.

    This will give the ignitor board. You can reprogram the board with free software (I will pre program basic saber action) and gives you 8 outputs I have run 100 leds off this board. You will have to make the LED blade yourself.

    My instuctables article gives you details of how to make the blade. The key to a bright blade is wide angle LED's and a good defuser.

    Thanks.

    Jason
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