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Legalisation of Prostitution

Discussion in 'Archive: The Senate Floor' started by Humble extra, Jun 25, 2003.

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  1. Darth_Overlord

    Darth_Overlord Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    The 13th amendment also prohibits indentured servitude. Here, two parties agreed beforehand that in exchange for paying for the voyage to America, one must serve the patron for X number of years. Now if both parties agreed to it, one is providing a service in exchange for payment, why is it unconstitutional?

    For the record, while I believe prostitution is universally objectively immoral, I am undecided about its legality. I may say that prostitution should be legal if you can prove to me the dignity of the human person is not being infringed upon.
     
  2. son_of_the_tear

    son_of_the_tear Jedi Master star 5

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    Female pornstars are NOT few in number, my friend.

    And being a porn star does not mean one is a whore.

    Look at Jenna Jameson. She isn't a whore. She's a porn star though. And not only that, but a powerful woman in the industry with her own porn company, clothing line, adult stores, etc, etc.

    She loves what she does.

    And to accuse that most porn stars are either whores or were whores is ridiculous.

    By the way, while it does not occur often in regular films, there are many in which the sex wasn't simulated, although you would never be able to tell because they won't show penetrating close ups. If they did, it would get an X rating.
     
  3. Vader666

    Vader666 Jedi Knight star 5

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    Son of tear

    I never said that PORN stars are whores.

    I said that the actresses who have sex for real in movies are whores...

    Read my post again..
     
  4. Saint_of_Killers

    Saint_of_Killers Jedi Youngling star 5

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    "Even though a woman "wants" to be a prostitute (i.e. she is not forced to) I still see no reason why it should be legalised. As far as I know, prostitutes are not normal people. They do have issues."

    Some people would say you have issues. Maybe you shouldn't be allowed to become a doctor.


    "The companies harboring this kind of business need a lot of whores to get their money. Whether they work in clubs or in the streets many of them are a bunch of A-Holes. They are a notorious gang after all. Some could even be drug dealers."

    And if it was legalised, it would take the business out of the hands of people like that.

    "I said that the actresses who have sex for real in movies are whores..."

    Yeah, that's pretty much the definition of a porn star.
     
  5. Vader666

    Vader666 Jedi Knight star 5

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    Some people would say you have issues. Maybe you shouldn't be allowed to become a doctor.


    PPOR ^

    Porn stars may or may not engage in sex. They may only appear nude in public..
     
  6. son_of_the_tear

    son_of_the_tear Jedi Master star 5

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    Vader, how old are you? Don't mean this as an insult but maybe if you are younger you may not know how it works in these films.

    Porn stars do engage in sex in their films. That's what being a prono actor entails.

    It is sex for REAL.

     
  7. Saint_of_Killers

    Saint_of_Killers Jedi Youngling star 5

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    OMG 4 realz??? :eek:
     
  8. anakin_girl

    anakin_girl Jedi Knight star 6

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    As far as I know, prostitutes are not normal people. They do have issues. Either they are ultra-horney or very depressed.

    *cough* blanket judgments *cough*

    What should be done is to help these people. I don't know this for sure but I don't think a lot of women "want" to be prostitutes.

    But you don't know that for sure.

    I don't think a lot of people want to flip burgers for a living but that doesn't mean doing so should be against the law.

    The companies harboring this kind of business need a lot of whores to get their money. Whether they work in clubs or in the streets many of them are a bunch of A-Holes.

    Hmmmm...sounds pretty similar to a lot of Fortune 500 companies. Otherwise the Dilbert comic strip would have never been created.

    Hell, sounds like a place I used to work, come to think of it.

     
  9. son_of_the_tear

    son_of_the_tear Jedi Master star 5

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    SoK, I was talking to Vader who seems to be misinformed about the subject.

    Jesus...
     
  10. Saint_of_Killers

    Saint_of_Killers Jedi Youngling star 5

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    I know, I was making fun of Vader :p
     
  11. son_of_the_tear

    son_of_the_tear Jedi Master star 5

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    Ah, well then, keep it up!

    :p
     
  12. Vader666

    Vader666 Jedi Knight star 5

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    Talking about me ay?

    I still hold to the fact that some porn stars don't necessarily engage in sex. Take Pam Anderson as an example. She's a playboy playmate and she never had sex for money. Not that I'm aware of anyway....

    Anakin Girl

    Don't take this as a flame. But your arguments are weak. I'd prefer you not be sarcastic all the time. Thanks :)
     
  13. Kimball_Kinnison

    Kimball_Kinnison Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    I know, I was making fun of Vader

    Ah, well then, keep it up!


    Please keep personal comments out of your discussion. Making fun of other posters is inappropriate, and is not to be encouraged or practiced.

    I'd prefer you not be sarcastic all the time.

    Sarcasm has its place in discussion in moderation. (Perhaps only moderators should use it then... :p) Use it to emphasize points, but not to insult of mock.

    Carry on.

    Kimball Kinnison
     
  14. Saint_of_Killers

    Saint_of_Killers Jedi Youngling star 5

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    "I still hold to the fact that some porn stars don't necessarily engage in sex. Take Pam Anderson as an example. She's a playboy playmate and she never had sex for money."

    Pam Anderson isn't a porn star. Playboy is not porn.
     
  15. scum&villainy

    scum&villainy Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    This has become a debate about the definitions involved; Playboy is pornography, so in a way it's 'stars' could be described as pornstars, but not in the common sense of the word, which applies to those involved in graphic, hardcore pornography.

    There's a significant different between softcore models or actresses and hardcore.



    And KK - your suggestion that only the Mods use sarcasm is fatally flawed, because you're all American, aren't you? And we all know what that means...heh
     
  16. Vader666

    Vader666 Jedi Knight star 5

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    OK. Let's get this straight.

    Anyone who engages in any sexual acts in exchange for money is considered a whore. It's as simple as that...
     
  17. scum&villainy

    scum&villainy Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    But in the context of this thread, that definition isn't applicable, because adult film stars, who have sex for money, aren't operating outside the law.
     
  18. Vader666

    Vader666 Jedi Knight star 5

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    How do you know that?

    They could be going out in the streets too..

    KK - It's OK to be sarcastic but she is using it excessively in my opinion...
     
  19. scum&villainy

    scum&villainy Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    "How do you know that?

    They could be going out in the streets too.."
    I think the likelihood of finding Jenna Jameson patrolling a stretch of Hollywood Boulevade skanking for business with any old punter is unlikey. THis girls earn fortunes doing what they in front of the camera.

    I'm sure some degree of high-class, high-society prostitution may occur, but you can't really toss an accustaion like that into the mix without evidence.
     
  20. Vader666

    Vader666 Jedi Knight star 5

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    Fair enough. But I would still classify them as whores whether it is illegal or not..
     
  21. womberty

    womberty Jedi Master star 4

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    Wow, so... a movie director soliciting sex from an actress is legal, but anyong else soliciting sex isn't?

    You mean to tell me that, if there were two ads in the paper - one offering $1000 for a lead role in a porno, and one offering $1000 for anyone willing to have sex, one advertiser would be arrested as a John and the other would be left alone?

    I don't get it...
     
  22. Vader666

    Vader666 Jedi Knight star 5

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    Womberty

    You hit the Jackpot. That is exactly what I believe. Any business dealing with sex is illegitimate in my opinion.

    However, there is a difference between porno and prostitution. It is thought that porno stars are not forced into the business while some prostitutes are forced into it..

    I guess that is the reason why governments view it as illicit..
     
  23. anakin_girl

    anakin_girl Jedi Knight star 6

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    Any business dealing with sex is illegitimate in my opinion.

    Because sex is evil, sex is blasphemous, sex is a horrible monster that goes bump in the night.

    Vader: If my arguments are so weak, where are your counterpoints?
     
  24. Darth_Overlord

    Darth_Overlord Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Is anyone else concerned that prostitutes, porn stars, etc. might be looked upon as something less than human by their "customers"?
     
  25. Saint_of_Killers

    Saint_of_Killers Jedi Youngling star 5

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    So might janitors, so might migrant workers, so might secretaries.

    What people think of other people is no business of the law.
     
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