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Lit Leia's Novel

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Danz Borin, Jan 16, 2013.

  1. The_Phantom_Calamari

    The_Phantom_Calamari Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    The Threepio/Han scenes were one of the few things I unequivocally enjoyed about that novel. I mean, Han's had to hang around with the guy and go on dangerous adventures with him for years. I'm sure he feels at least some measure of camaraderie with Threepio way down deep below the surface, it just takes the love of his life spurning him and a whole lotta alcohol to get him to admit it.
     
  2. Todd the Jedi

    Todd the Jedi Mod and Soliloquist of SWTV star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    What a man! Solo.

    He's every Princess's dream!
     
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  3. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    I just don't see it that way. Leia's wedded to duty. She's human, of course, and has feelings -- and I like to think that her initial coldness towards Solo was mostly her not wanting to confront her emotional turmoil.

    As far as the ideals of the New Republic -- remember that just about a year or two before the events of this novel, the "New Republic" released hardened murderers onto the galactic capital in order to make their invasion easier. I don't think that they would really bat an eye at a matriarchal society.
     
  4. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Nightsister of Four Realms star 9 Staff Member Manager

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    I Could. Not. Stand. COPL.

    The matriarchal society didn't bother me at all, but the whole concept of Mon Mothma trying to arrange a marriage between Leia and Fabio Isolder, and Leia playing along even for .2 nanoseconds after she had already established a relationship with Han in ROTJ, was absurd.

    The "courtship of Princess Leia" took place in Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi. Period, end of sentence.

    I really liked Tatooine Ghost. I wouldn't call it a commercial for TPM but it does bridge the two trilogies pretty well, with Leia meeting Kitster and finding an entire videolog of Shmi as well as sensing the Tusken slaughter through the Force--there was great dialogue between Leia and Han on that subject. And that book had good romance.

    I'd love to see a well-written Leia novel, with "well-written" being the operative word. If it focuses on Hoth and the surrounding time frame, that sounds like a good set-up. I want to see the feisty smart-ass Princess we met in ANH, the one who was not afraid to tell her rescuers in a diplomatic way to go **** themselves if they were acting like idiots, even if they were rescuing her at the time. I'd like to see her dealing with Alderaan in her own way, and when we're talking about Leia, that probably won't involve a lot of emoting, more introspection that would translate much better to the page than the screen. I'd like to see her as a strategist as far as protecting the Rebel fleet on Hoth and making their next move.

    And for ****'s sake, nothing about her trying to choose between her brother and Han.
     
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  5. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    I know everyone likes to see Leia as an individualist who isn't afraid to stand up for herself and make her own decisions. Those attributes are a big part of what makes her such a strong character, and what made her refreshing in the era when the movies came out. But we also can't forget how committed she was to the cause. I have no doubt in my mind that she'd suck it up for the sake of her movement. I mean, she already gave up her entire life for the Rebellion and already risked everything else. Do you think after giving up all that, she'd be unwilling to give up another aspect of her personal happiness?

    As for what you'd like to see in the Leia novel, I largely agree with everything you've just said, a_g -- with the caveat that I find Luke/Leia stuff pre:ROTJ to be intrinsically hilarious. I'm sorry! I just do. :p
     
  6. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Nightsister of Four Realms star 9 Staff Member Manager

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    She was a career politician and they all suck up, it goes with the territory. Didn't make COPL any more palatable though.

    On the career politician aspect--she went into politics, as I understand it, because it was tradition on Alderaan for the heir to the throne to serve at least one term in the Senate. That's another angle that could be addressed in the novel. Did she really enjoy politics, or did she enter into it for Bail and Breha and then come to accept it as her duty?
     
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  7. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Good point -- Children of the Jedi has her remembering a bunch of aunts fussing over her and trying to teach her how to behave properly for the Imperial Court, and she seemed have not been very cooperative. There's also all that stuff about people often mistaking the more graceful Winter for the princess. Of course, that doesn't necessarily mean she didn't enjoy the politics, just that she was a little too rough and tumble for the more ceremonial stuff. She ends up getting used to it, but does that mean she came to terms with it or came to like it? Hard to say.
     
  8. instantdeath

    instantdeath Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    The best thing about COPL is the Wraith trilogy ;)

    The conversation between Han and Leia regarding the Tusken slaughter is the absolute highlight of the book for me. TG is the only Denning work I've read, and I enjoyed it overall. I know many hate Han and Leia in later books, but judging from TG alone, it seems like Denning has a good grasp on both their characters. Maybe that changes.
     
  9. Havac

    Havac Former Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Does it ever.
     
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  10. krtmd

    krtmd Jedi Knight star 4

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    Hey, we're all entitled to our opinions, right? If they had just sold the marriage to Isolder in COPL as one that was purely political, and showed Leia as being prepared to sacrifice her own happiness with Han as a price for peace in the GFFA, I might have been able to see it. But that's not exactly what Wolverton does. By chapter 7, she's considering telling Isolder she loves him. o_O And giving Han the extreme brush-off. "Look, Han, I'll always be fond of you..."

    I, too, have high hopes for the new Leia book, and would love to see the things anakinfan mentioned. Particularly, her grief about Alderaan, her feelings about Breha and Bail, and the push/pull of her relationship with Han.
     
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  11. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Fair enough. I suppose I hadn't read the book recently enough to recall that: I just saw it as purely political. I'll agree that it's extremely out of character for her to fall for some "dashing prince," esp. given what we know about her personality growing up.
     
  12. krtmd

    krtmd Jedi Knight star 4

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    From SWBooks on Facebook

     
  13. Manisphere

    Manisphere Jedi Master star 5

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    So it looks like we finally have a title for Leia's entry in the Rebels series. It's simple. It's clean. It's Rebels.
    Imaginative.o_O
     
  14. krtmd

    krtmd Jedi Knight star 4

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    Well, that's anticlimactic, to say the least. o_O
     
  15. Lugija

    Lugija Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    It could still be a placeholder title. The series has been called Rebels in interviews.
     
  16. JediMara77

    JediMara77 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Rebels is the name of the series. The Leia novel itself is currently untitled. See above Facebook page quote.
     
  17. Force Smuggler

    Force Smuggler Force Ghost star 7

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    Hoping it is a more than one word title.
     
  18. Barriss_Coffee

    Barriss_Coffee Chosen One star 6

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    Should've been Dark Rebels.

    No wait.

    DARK REBELLION.
     
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  19. The Loyal Imperial

    The Loyal Imperial Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Star Wars: Dark Rebellion of Darkness.
     
  20. Manisphere

    Manisphere Jedi Master star 5

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    It's possible. It was listed as, Untitled Leia Novel before yesterday.
    Star Wars: Leia's Dark Rebel Bloodlines.
     
  21. Allana_Rey

    Allana_Rey Jedi Master star 4

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    Stoked. I can't wait for this Leia novel!
     
  22. Havac

    Havac Former Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    THE NEW DARK REBELLION: A NOVEL OF THE OLD DARK REBELLION II: REBEL HARDER AND DARKER.
     
  23. Ulicus

    Ulicus Lapsed Moderator star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    LEIA CAKE.
     
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