Arena Let's get it on!: The Mixed Martial Arts Discussion Thread

Same for me, that was savage stuff. Winslow had two really bad stoppages in SF- Cyborg (female version-loosely) and King Mo, the latter even called her out. Mirgliotta in the Mir-Carwin fight was bad too.

I agree, its the worst mistake imaginable. We may hate the early stoppages from the usual suspects, Yves and Mazzagatti, but at least nobody's getting hurt.

 

They're pushing so hard for NY, I think they'll eventually get it. Lots of economic benefit, Lorenzo F said 100 mil over 2 yrs for the state, and the UFC may guarantee 2 fights a year. Northeast and Canada such a huge market, NY is just a matter of time.

The problem is states like mine, where some backwoods non-sanctioned fight in SC gets a guy killed. Often there is very poor organization in the smaller market states to regulate safety.

 

Good lord, that author is a turd. He is the athletic equivalent of a political knuckle-dragger like James Dobson, does not care to entertain any facts whatsoever, simply plays to the emotions of his audience of mouth-breathers that he assumes is uneducated in MMA and will agree with him after he scares them with words like "rap music" and vaguely references the ring fatalities without any detail, or even the slightest hint of a comparison to the brutality in boxing that has resulted in over 900 deaths in sanctioned fights over the last 120 years.

 

Well, to be fair, there have technically been 3 deaths in "regulated fights." The most recent one, in Mt. Pleasant, SC, was completely unrelated to the fight, the coroner determined. There was another in SC and one in Texas fighting in promotions that surely can't afford experienced referees, likely they were glorified street fights. Still, you make a good point- Dana White's chief concern has never been questioned, and that's why is so vocal against garbage commissions and referees- he knows that one late stoppage gone bad at a top level competition could mortally wound the whole sport, with the microscope it's under.

Heck, on a different note, look at how CBS reacted when Mayhem and the Diaz posse brawled in Nashville- completely severed ties and banished SF back to Showtime, just out of fear that the "thug" image that many have created fictitiously would hurt their brand. It's a growing sport that is constantly being hacked at, and that has forced Dana and others to overcompensate on issues like safety, which make claims like those of the Post writer utterly absurd.

 

I think the Bellator move for Spike was more to fill the vacuum left by the UFC- that relationship was long and good, and I guess Viacom thought that since Spike is a "guy" network, that was the appropriate place to put it. I just remember how much CBS promoted Dan Henderson for that Shields fight, and then Gus Johnson giving his now-infamous line during the brawl, "Sometimes these things happen in MMA."

That's not surprising from Diaz, although I thought he was retired- so why would he even care?

 

Ellenburger vs Rory booked for UFC on Fox 8 in Seattle. FOTY contender I think..it will be a brawl.

 

Watching the card on delay.

Can't believe Nick Diaz got knocked out- Thomson caught him flush with two head kicks, great performance, always a good night when a Diaz loses.

 

Mir needs to be done, he was awful, again. Cormier isn't ready for the big guns yet, but he's getting there, and he thoroughly beat up Mir tonight.

I thought Gil Melendez won the first three rounds, but as they always say, can never rely on winning split decisions as the challenger. Unless Aldo moves up, there should be a rematch, nobody else up there with those 2, especially with the Diaz loss. Good to see Bendo's proposal as well, he's a good guy and always a gracious winner.

Chael ready to go, just one week to go. Can't wait.

 

Awesome, I can't wait to listen to that. Thanks.

Chael was in full form at the end of the broadcast, some line about applying to college while Jones was sitting on his dad's lap asking for quarters. Deadspin rapped him early in the week for race relations, since he's gone after Jones and Silva hardest, so I don't know how that comment will go over. He's a talented fighter, and sells PPVs, but I think Jones is going to make a fool of him.

 

I read that on the UG forums this week- that would greatly surprise me if true, Chael spews a lot. I think the NSAC refuted the claim about not being contracted for the Silva fight today, too.

After Maia beat him, when Chael then mowed through Dan Miller, then Okami, and then Marquardt on his way to fight Silva the first time, I can't see businessmen as disciplined as Dana and the Fertitas not having him under contract. He was a good fighter rising through the ranks, but not at the stage where he could make demands of them. Silva, and then the drug suspension, put him on the map.