Senate Let's talk about sexism.

Discussion in 'Community' started by Sith-Lord-Gunray, Sep 7, 2013.

  1. s65horsey Otter-loving Former EUC Mod

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  2. Lord Vivec Chosen One

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    Can you imagine ender's ego with the self assuredness of faith added? *shudders*
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  3. Sith-Lord-Gunray Ex-Mod

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    Yeah the goatse line was not serious at all.

    FTR I pretty much agree with Ender on just about all his posts in this thread. You dudes trying to argue doing the lol@ Ender is...well...really immature. Did you know that there are other ways to disagree with someone besides teasing them like we're in 4th grade?
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  4. I Are The Internets Chosen One

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    Intellectual Arlol?
  5. Mar17swgirl Chosen One

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    That's an oxymoron if I ever saw one. :p
  6. s65horsey Otter-loving Former EUC Mod

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    Anyways, there is actually some real news out there on this topic so I am going to link to an article that discusses some of it. The name of the App created includes a banned word on the JCC so mods if this is over the line please delete the link. It is real news though and very on topic.

    TechCrunch apologizes for App presentation

    Basically two guys created an App to allow guys to look at women's breasts because the science says "looking at breasts was directly linked with having a good healthy heart, but woman just aren't that warm to it".
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  7. I Are The Internets Chosen One

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    He put the "moron" in "oxymoron".
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  8. GrandAdmiralJello Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque

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    Ah, actually -- my point on that was to talk about employers in general, where efficiency is a matter of bottom line and not much else. Basically, I was arguing that I don't see it as a good enough reason. I'm not terribly qualified to talk about specifics regarding the military, but it seems EF has that argument well in hand anyway.
  9. Obi-Zahn Kenobi Chosen One

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    That's enough from you, OZK.
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  10. Point Given Mod of Literature and Community

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    Edit: never mind.
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  11. Lord Vivec Chosen One

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    Oh, I don't disagree with him on really anything regarding the thread topic. It's just his constant "I'm superior to everyone on everything" schtick is the most annoying one here.
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  12. harpua Chosen One

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    Yeah, his head is in the right place, but he could definitely tone down the aggressiveness. I agree with him on several topics, a lot of the time, but he has a really confrontational and abrasive way of getting his point across, which makes his arguments ineffective a lot of the time. Nobody wants to listen to douche (not calling him a douche, just saying his posts come across as douchey, sometimes).
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  13. EmpireForever Chosen One

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    I think they're very funny.
  14. GrandAdmiralJello Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque

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    Of course, I'm not sure if that's modesty or immense ego on his part...
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  15. Lord Vivec Chosen One

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    Fear will keep the local Enders in line. Fear of this GrandAdmiralJello.
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  16. Souderwan Chosen One

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    I wasn't going to participate in this conversation as I didn't think I had much (anything) worthwhile to add. But reading the last bit about the military kinda reminded me that women are now serving on submarines (since 2010!) and are doing perfectly well. But I remember the reaction on a discussion forum to an article that came out a while ago about the first women to earn their gold dolphins. The forum was made up almost exclusively of retired submariners, mostly enlisted. Although there were none of the comments were offensive on their face (i.e. they weren't calling women names or making sexually suggestive remarks), the overwhelming reaction was disappointingly negative. I'd say it was probably 80% against women in submarines. The voices that spoke up in favor of integration were encouraging, but the list of ridiculous arguments opposing the decision was depressing.

    On the upside, when the subject comes up among junior sailors (guys under 30 or so), they seem completely unperturbed by the notion of working alongside and for female officers. In fact, most of the young Sailors are interested in why we don't have enlisted females yet. (If you're interested, the sub force is working on the logistics to make that happen in the next 5 yrs).
  17. wannasee Force Ghost

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    meh being in a single-sex environment has its advantages...
  18. CT-867-5309 Chosen One

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    Some West African frogs have been known to change sex from male to female in a single sex environment.
  19. Souderwan Chosen One

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    Being in prison also has its advantages. Doesn't make it a good idea.
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  20. GrandAdmiralJello Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque

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    For some people, it might be.
  21. Souderwan Chosen One

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  22. I Are The Internets Chosen One

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    Being on a planet where apes evolve from men has its advantages too.
  23. VadersLaMent Chosen One

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    Good grief. Reading the last few pages. I'm actually sorry I helped derail the thing. At least foreskin was left out.

    And for the record I can totally out drive all of you, male or female.
  24. Ender Sai Chosen One

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    Vivec, I am superior to you but honestly, that's not hard. You wear a fedora and don't understand politics or economics! :p But serious time now: let's just for a second abandon one of your favourite pieces of armour, the codpiece of (self-)righteous indignation. Prior to my arriving in this thread, your behavior was already tacitly in support of sexism whether you intended it or not. Your second post, after an offhand remark about stripping, was to say "So men can make their own sexism thread?". You edited to soften the blow a bit, but to translate, it's a bit "lol, a woman with an opinion" and "I don't like where this is going, better derail it quickly". Nothing in your contributions since have indicated you even take the matter seriously, since you were making snide and flaccid remarks with every post.

    Instead of even again addressing systemic issues with gender discrimination, you want to focus on me as if a) that won't just make it worse and b) in doing so, you can steer the conversation in another direction from one about sexism. All you are doing is refusing to deal with the topic at hand, which is what you've done from the outset.

    So far, I think we can take from this you are quite happy to continue to benefit from the institutionalised bias in favour of your gender but you lack the balls to admit it. Good-o!
  25. Lord Vivec Chosen One

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    Not taking a JCC thread seriously = supporting sexism. Considering the OP of this thread (no offense SLG) is a master at not taking threads seriously and derailing threads. But go ahead. Try to construct me as a sexist. Everyone here knows better. No one is going to believe the most toxic JCCer's caricature of other JCCers.
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