One thing to consider, Obi-Zahn, is that a lot of this discussion comes down to academic discourse (in which a lot of modern and extremist feminism is based in). For example, some feminists will say that sexism against men can't exist since there is not institutionalized and systematic discrimination against men. Now, you might point to something like domestic violence where men are treated as the perpetrators no matter what the circumstances and have little recourse as victims. Some feminists would argue, though, that this doesn't "count" as an example of sexism against men because it is based on sexism against women -- namely the notion that women are too weak to hurt a man. It's really a "technical" definition that I, personally, don't subscribe to. And it represents the thinking of a fraction of feminists. For my money, there's no doubt that the male victims of domestic violence are horrifically discriminated against by the system. One thing to remember, though, is that feminists on the internet aren't representative of feminists as a whole -- they're the vocal minority. Just as extremist Muslims are a vocal minority against millions of peaceful Muslims who quietly practice their religion. Or the Westboro Baptist Church is an extremely vocal and vulgar minority that in no way represents all Christians. I consider myself a feminist wholeheartedly, but aside from discussions like this once in a while, it's not something I discuss on the internet or make a huge part of my life. It's just a set of values I carry with me that inform my actions. I imagine it's much the same for most feminists.