Senate Let's Talk: Feminism

Equality is awesome! Wear whatever you want! Be whoever you want! Unless you wear jeans that don't require fifty cubic metres of material to make, in which case GET OUT.

 

We need to hate something. It's part of the human condition. That little bit of hate is the cement that binds all the blocks of stuff we're ok with. In this case it happens to be your silly trousers.

 

I had this conversation with my friend's brother at Thanksgiving. He recently discovered the tight jeans and loves them. He's on stage a lot and when he was going through pics of himself he realized the baggy jeans looked awful and were getting in his way when he jumped around. Skinny jeans solved the problem and from what his fans say apparently they look good on him.

I'm always fascinated that women (and some men) won't go out in public with makeup on. I sort of gave makeup up when I moved to Nashville. I work at a horse farm so for my job it doesn't matter. I don't think this means I have no self respect. My acne disappeared. My skin feels healthier. I will put it on occasionally for a party but for the most part I don't wear it. I hate the perception that I have no self respect because I don't wear makeup.

 

I'll let you know in 4 years if I still feel the same way!

 

I have horrible grey hair and I am 37. I thought about dieing it but considered how foolish I would look trying to cover it up. In a few years the rest of my body will catch up and then I will look dignified. But for now I look bad. If I let it grow out it looks even worse.

 

I have no idea what you look like, beezel, but I'm pretty sure 'dignified' is not going to be an option.

 

I'm sorry, I thought that this was a thread for/about feminism.

 

Old people with grey hair looks dignified. Young people with grey hair looks horrifying.

 

Dignified people with grey hair look dignified, beezels with grey hair look beezelly.

But I'm intrigued, do I look 'old' or 'horrifying'?

 

I thought we just discussed though that the point of feminism is to do what the individual female wants. So far what I'm seeing from you, Beezel, in this Senate thread about Feminism (so I know you can't possibly be joking) is:

- you're NOT a female
- you're telling females your opinion on what's aesthetically pleasing to you

Now I'm not saying something extremist like all male's opinions on how female's look is invalid, but the point of what I would assume a feminist thread would be (pardon me since I haven't hit up this sausage fest yet in my time on the JC) is to...you know, respect actual women's opinions and be a place where women can discuss women's rights and women things. There are a million threads on the JC for voicing opinions on aesthetics for both genders, but coming in here and saying "well herp derp I love women who do this, this gets me off" or "DERPIN HERPS I WANT MY WOMEN TO DYE THEIR HAIR" seems a bit....counter intuitive to the subject.

My point is, if that's not clear enough or comes across as not serious enough - those opinions are great. We all need opinions like that. But what exactly does that have to do with this thread? Is this an intro to feminism course where we ease men into the concept or is this a place where we actually are talking about feminism?

 

http://www.today.com/health/darwin-awards-biggest-idiots-past-decade-are-1D80364418

Why invest money into breast cancer when as men we invest it in finding out who is the smarter of the sexes. Wait, we lost crap! Hey somebody hold my beer.

 

what.

 

I don't know.

 

You make it very, very difficult for me to be sympathetic to you against the snotty people who infect this forum. I posted a vid above on a lighter note given the topic of high heels. What you have done here is connect things that do not connect. At all. Then wonder why people hate you. It's not working. Stop it.

 

Alright, I think reading the link, he was trying to complain about a gender disparity in scientific research. This is a legitimate topic, but he's misfired. The article he linked to isn't really an example of such a gap, even if the topic were serious. As it happens, though, he's quoting something from the annual joke edition of the British Medical Journal, where none of the research is "real" and nor did it cost any money/time to do.This is basically an instance of someone thinking an Onion article is real.

Moving along, then.

 

I hate wearing makeup, because I have pretty sensitive skin, and don't like the way it makes my face feel. I use a moisturizer and Burts Beeswax on my lips, but that's about it. I don't think this has anything to do with feminism, though, like, at all. My choices have nothing to do with other women or my opinion of them (and certainly nothing to do with impressing men)--the same goes with fashion choices. I have a bad back and a bum leg, and am pretty accident prone and clumsy, so I don't like wearing heals.... again, this has absolutely nothing to do with my opinion of other women. I generally judge people based on character. I've been finding stray grey hairs, here and there, and have no plans to dye it. I've earned every single one of them, as far as I'm concerned. I do not fear aging, and have no desire to look or act like I'm 20.

 

There's a societal expectation that women wear makeup/heels/etc. if they want to be taken seriously or get noticed or advance in many realms. It's not a problem if an individual "chooses" to wear these things, but I don't see how one could say that it isn't really ****ed up that going out without makeup is usually considered against the norm at best.

 

You look like what you push out from there is going to be a 2 metre rope of brown triumph, which to me is horrifyingly satisfying and speaks of sufficient fibre in the diet.

(That's 'meter' and 'fiber' if you don't speak English as a first language)

Anyway, how was it? Perfect?

 

I'm not sure it's a feminist issue, Ender, but short steel bending reminds me of pooping and is equally satisfying.

 

Couldn't see the image clearly, but related to the expression.

To be fair, we're still reeling from the imbeezling of this thread, so...