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FF:SA Light vs. Dark - Dark vs. Light

Discussion in 'Oceania Discussion Boards' started by Cho-Junn, Jun 19, 2008.

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  1. Cho-Junn

    Cho-Junn Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Here you go guys. Knock yourselves out. :p
     
  2. Cho-Junn

    Cho-Junn Jedi Padawan star 4

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    In this corner for the Lightside (Luke) we have, _Master-Skywalker_ and in this corner for the Darkside (Anti-Luke) we have, evil-incarnate and Quinten_JarVos
     
  3. Cho-Junn

    Cho-Junn Jedi Padawan star 4

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    _Master-Skywalker_ Posted:

    LUKE SKYWALKER Vs ANY SITH EVER !!

    LUKE !! Here's why !!


    Though he received little training, Luke Skywalker became a wise and powerful Jedi Master. His skills with both the Force and lightsaber were exceptional. Luke had the Force potential to become what his father was supposed to become?the Force potential of the Chosen One. Luke Skywalker was one of the most powerful Jedi to ever exist, as he demonstrated powers and abilities that surpassed even Grand Master Yoda. Some examples where his skills are shown include:

    Force Sense

    * During the Battle of Yavin, Luke managed to destroy the first Death Star by letting the Force tell him when to fire his proton torpedoes, while traveling at very high speeds, and not knowing the distance to the port, and having no previous knowledge of proton torpedoes and their abilities. One should note that Luke only had little training with the Force at this time.

    * Luke managed to land a crashing Imperial Star Destroyer, with almost no loss of life, on Coruscant by allowing the Force to guide him at the Liberator's controls, mirroring a similar achievement by his father towards the end of the Clone Wars.[110][111][112]

    Force Attunement

    * Without any guidance except a handbook left by Obi-Wan Kenobi, Luke Skywalker successfully built his first lightsaber, merely three years after he was first introduced to the Force, and undergoing formal training for less than a year.

    * Only a short time after being given a lightsaber by Obi-Wan, Luke was able to instinctively block several blaster bolts fired in rapid succession by a remote, despite his lack of prolonged formal training.

    Luke Skywalker, Jedi apprentice.
    Luke Skywalker, Jedi apprentice.

    Telekinesis

    * Luke safely landed himself, Isolder, and Isolder's fighter from a free fall drop from orbit with the Force.

    * During the Battle of Dathomir, Luke flew the Millennium Falcon single-handedly using only the Force, manipulating its controls and operating it with a skill that not even a full crew could manage.

    * Luke was able to knock down a crippled AT-AT by pressing against it with the Force; he also absorbed the initial cannon blasts from the AT-AT, before deflecting the rest with his lightsaber.[110][111]

    * During the Black Fleet Crisis, Luke used the Force to rebuild Darth Vader's old fortress on Coruscant and made it invisible.[113] In addition, Luke used the Force to crush the rebuilt fortress of Darth Vader to rubble, shattering the building piece by piece and throwing it into the oceans of Coruscant.[114]

    * During the Battle of Dantooine of the Yuuzhan Vong War, Luke tricked a vehicle's dovin basals into colliding its own void (black hole) against itself by using the Force to hold the void against the pull of the dovin basals; then reversing the direction of his own pull, adding it to the pull of the dovin basals, so that the void would collide against the spine of the vehicle.[84]

    Revitalize

    * In the battle between the Singing Mountain Clan and the Nightsisters, Luke was almost fatally wounded by a Force attack by Gethzerion and a deep fall, but regenerated in the span of mere hours.

    Droid Disable

    * Luke also destroyed a group of hot-wired battle droids just by waving his hand, subtly displacing their master servos and causing the self-destruction of the group of droids.[110][111] This Force power was first manifested by Jedi Master Arca Jeth during the Great Droid Revolution. Even then, with proper instruction, it was a difficult power to master. However, this power apparently came naturally to Luke.

    Luke Skywalker, Jedi Knight.
    Luke Skywalker, Jedi Knight.

    Force Protection

    * During the time when he was re-creating the Jedi Order and was searching for potential candidates, he walked on lava while still throbbing with the Force after defeating a Fireworm living in the lava just moments before.[59] Luke's performance impressed Gantoris so much that he decided to become Luke's apprentice. It should be noted that
     
  4. Cho-Junn

    Cho-Junn Jedi Padawan star 4

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    There... All done.
    Hopefully I got everything, all in the order it was posted. [face_thinking]

    So there you go guys, your own lightside vs. darkside thread.

    Enjoy... [face_laugh]
     
  5. Quinten_JarVos

    Quinten_JarVos Jedi Padawan star 4

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    The Darkside always wins, You can Never Remove the darkside
     
  6. evil-incarnate

    evil-incarnate Jedi Youngling star 7

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    There is no dark or light.


    There is just the Force.....



    I prefer mis-use over correct use.


    Is that better ?



    I WIN ! [face_dancing]
     
  7. Quinten_JarVos

    Quinten_JarVos Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Sees a WWE Ref drop to the ground and tap once, tap twice, tap a third time

    Ring the Bell... The Darkside wins!
     
  8. evil-incarnate

    evil-incarnate Jedi Youngling star 7

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    Thank e !!

    Thank e !!

    [face_dancing]

    I love youse all !!!!! [face_love]


    Kinda like Batista vs John Cena... outcome assured.... :p


    The Beast wins..... :D
     
  9. _Master-Skywalker_

    _Master-Skywalker_ Jedi Knight star 5

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    Cena would so FU Batista's ass !!

    errhemm, back to the main event...

    Check the facts, the good guys always win in the end. Success is aways fleeting with the bad guys..as it should be.

    If you don't think Luke IS more powerful than any Sith re-read my LONG post of Luke achievements with the Force.

    and Yes, Palpatine was a master manipulator but EU Luke(not Knight Luke) would kick his wrinley ass :p
     
  10. evil-incarnate

    evil-incarnate Jedi Youngling star 7

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    I'm going to make my own card that says I pwn Luke's
    roody poo candy *** .....

    & that will make it so..... [face_peace]




    :D
     
  11. _Master-Skywalker_

    _Master-Skywalker_ Jedi Knight star 5

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    nup, clutching at straws pal.

    :p

    Luke & now (Cena too)

    would so kick ass of Batista & Palpatine !!
     
  12. Cho-Junn

    Cho-Junn Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Hi guys! Are we playing nice tonight? :p

    How do we like the new room extension to the old SAFF house? [face_thinking]
     
  13. _Master-Skywalker_

    _Master-Skywalker_ Jedi Knight star 5

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    'sgood, we've had a Light Vs Drak thread in the past however & it had to be closed due to vandalism :p

    People got thrown around the walls abit to much, lets see if we can play nicer this time [face_laugh]
     
  14. evil-incarnate

    evil-incarnate Jedi Youngling star 7

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    Nice ?


    Nice is a relative term.




    [face_devil]
     
  15. Quinten_JarVos

    Quinten_JarVos Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Like the WWE, star wars is scripted, at no time should any actions seen be tried as they are done by professionals.

    Lao Tzu wrote in Tao te Ching:

    What is a good person but a bad person's teacher?
    What is a bad person but raw materiel for his teacher?
    If you fail to honor your teacher or fail to enjoy your student,
    you will become deluded no matter how smart you are.
    It is the secret of prime importance.

    This means that Light will never overcome the dark and the dark will never overcome the light

    Sun Tzu states the following

    Foreknowledge cannot be elicited from ghosts and spirits

    He Also goes on a fair bit about warfare, but this stands out the most to me. The Sith Believe in the Force as a tool... and the following illustrates the point well

    Force is the control of the balance of power, in accordance with advantages. ?
    Warfare is the Way of deception. ?
    Therefore, if able, appear unable,
    if active, appear not active,
    if near, appear far,
    if far, appear near. ?
    If they have advantage, entice them;
    if they are confused, take them,
    if they are substantial, prepare for them,
    if they are strong, avoid them,
    if they are angry, disturb them,
    if they are humble, make them haughty,
    if they are relaxed, toil them,
    if they are united, separate them. ?
    Attack where they are not prepared, go out to where they do not expect. ?

    Bane understood this principle, as did revan and the emperor. Luke doesn't

    Alas... we are counter ballances
     
  16. Cho-Junn

    Cho-Junn Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Ya.... Play Nice & no throwing or else I'll release Jar Jar & the Ewoks. :confused:

    Some deterrent. :oops:
     
  17. _Master-Skywalker_

    _Master-Skywalker_ Jedi Knight star 5

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    you need to read more EU mate, Luke has a very good grip on the Force, what it's all about & how best to use it in balance :D
     
  18. Quinten_JarVos

    Quinten_JarVos Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Not commenting on the Force per say... Stating that Luke for all his abilities never understood the basic principles of warfare. That's what makes the Sith Strong, we are the Natural state of the force.. it's strength, passion, power made manifest.

    It is why when it comes to fights between the sith / jedi, the sith have now taken the galaxy a good number of times. Individuals have swayed the galaxy back in to order, but like most things too much light side and too much dark side are bad things *laughs* there needs to be a balance

     
  19. _Master-Skywalker_

    _Master-Skywalker_ Jedi Knight star 5

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    balance ? The Sith unbalance the Force. They create havoc, chaos & destruction...how is that balance ?o_O
     
  20. evil-incarnate

    evil-incarnate Jedi Youngling star 7

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    The Sith create control.

    Open government promotes corruption.

    Rule by the many is always doomed to failure.


    The Force is simply a tool. One persons evil is perfectly acceptable to another.

    As Obi-wan preached - "from a certain point of view".
    Who says whos' point of view is correct ?
     
  21. _Master-Skywalker_

    _Master-Skywalker_ Jedi Knight star 5

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    even Obi Wan who was known to stretch the truth just a tad wouldn't say the Sith were good- from a certain point of view.

    Sith maim, kill, enslave, torture & destroy

    & Jedi love all animals especially kittens :p
     
  22. evil-incarnate

    evil-incarnate Jedi Youngling star 7

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    Sith love kittens.


    They just turn them into ruthless killers..... [face_devil]


    Make the MOST of ALL their potential.
     
  23. _Master-Skywalker_

    _Master-Skywalker_ Jedi Knight star 5

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    o_O

    this is a good thing?

    Turn a fluffy little kitten into a ruthless killer, not doing a good job of selling this Sith stuff to me :p
     
  24. evil-incarnate

    evil-incarnate Jedi Youngling star 7

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    Cats are natural killers.

    Hunters.


    It's what NATURE made them to do.

    Wouldn't want to argue with nature would we ??? hhhhmmmmm ????? [face_mischief]
     
  25. _Master-Skywalker_

    _Master-Skywalker_ Jedi Knight star 5

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    [face_thinking]


    I suppose educating them is out of the question ?


    [face_laugh]


    :confused: how did we end up here ?

    I still say Luke would defeat any Sith leader in the history of the galaxy, the only thing that will defeat Luke is old age :p
     
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