**Lightsaber Choreography Contest V Has Begun!**

Discussion in 'Fan Films, Fan Audio & SciFi 3D' started by ObiJuan2080, Feb 1, 2007.

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  1. BkStudio Jedi Knight

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    Jan 21, 2007
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    I had my own logo i just forgot to put in the LccV logo
  2. ObiJuan2080 Force Ghost

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    Jan 31, 2004
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    Hey guys. I dont have the list of those who turned in their entries. That list is at home on the PC.

    I can however, post a list of those who volunteer to have their entry in the DVD project, which is what I want to focus on next until I can get a confirmation from Ken about the change to the opening of the polls. Once I get that confirmation I can tell you guys exactly when you'll be able to see the entries, and when voting begins.

    So far these are the guys who volunteered to have their entries in the LCC DVD;

    DVD LCC Entrants

    1. NateCaauwe
    2. Vaportrail
    3. JediPastor


    Now BruceM, I know you wanted your entry in the DVD but at 11.11fps, it just can't happen. All entries for the DVD must be 720x480, 29.97fps (30fps) and of course interlaced (you'd be surprised how many people forget that last step).
  3. durbnpoisn TFN Staff Cast & Crew Database

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    Okay... Consider this your confirmation. :)

    The polls open when you release the link. I won't bother to set an opening trigger. Just hide the link until the appointed time.
    Setting an end time is no problem.

    All I really need from you is the final list so I can set them up in the database.
  4. ObiJuan2080 Force Ghost

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    Jan 31, 2004
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    Yes, that I have at home. So I will PM you the list (exact file names) this afternoon.

    Ok guys. Here we go;

    Entries will be available for viewing this Friday (I'll ty to wake up early, I got Midnight Premiere tickets to Spiderman 3) May 4, 2007. You will have the whole weekend to view it and the polls will open Monday May 7th at 12:00 p.m. EST. They will close May 13th at 11:59:59 p.m. I figured that would be enough time to watch the entries and vote while having the judges think of and submit reviews for the entries.
  5. VaporTrail Force Ghost

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    May 19, 2002
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    Well, I'll be too busy watching Spider-Man and the playing the game for 360 so I just won't have time for the contest. Oh well, it would've been cool.

    :p

    This is gonna be the coolest Friday ever! I'm so happy that I finally got to enter an LCC. Historic, I tell you.. but I can't show anyone my entry! Usually I finish a film and I'm linking everyone I know.

    Ahhh, patience. Perhaps I should go work on the final draft of my screenplay, the one with all those other lightsaber fights.


    Obijuan, I'm not sure when you're releasing the DVD but Mik3 and I are planning on fixing up a lot of stuff from our entry that we simply didn't have time to do properly. Are you going to only want the LCCV version for the DVD, or if we have the "HD-Cut" done on time will that be accepted?

    -Vaportrail
  6. PraetorDrew Jedi Knight

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    Jun 28, 2006
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    That sounds like a great idea. We'll gladly send you a version of our entry suitable for the LCCV DVD. When do you need it?
  7. G-Unit Jedi Master

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    May 23, 2004
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    Shout out to all the midnight Spidey 3 viewers! And then friday has fights, my kind of day!
  8. NateCaauwe Force Ghost

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    May 30, 2005
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    Sadly ya'll are gonna have to watch mine sans sound effects. I ended up submitting a music only version since I couldn't get a sound mix I was happy with on time. I'll still have to finish the sounds in the next two days anyway, because I'm premiering it right after the Spidey 3 midnight showing :D
  9. VaporTrail Force Ghost

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    May 19, 2002
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    Premiering it where? At a theater?
    I don't recall if we're 'allowed' to put out different versions until the contest is over with. I was under the impression that until the votes are cast and the judges statements are in, the LCC site is only place they're going to be.

    -Vaportrail
  10. BruceM Jedi Master

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    Mar 8, 2006
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    I am probably going to re-shoot my entry with that other camera I told you about on aim. It will be the same coreograpghy, just shot better. How much time to I have to do that?
  11. NateCaauwe Force Ghost

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    May 30, 2005
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    Friend's apartment ;) Couple of my friends have seen bits and pieces of it, or an incomplete version, so that'll be the big "hooray, it's pretty much done!" event.
  12. brook_33 Jedi Master

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    Dec 30, 2003
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    Still need another judge?
  13. BkStudio Jedi Knight

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  14. ObiJuan2080 Force Ghost

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    Actually brook_33, the reason why I needed an extra one was because Ryan_W told me a while ago that he would like to be a judge but things might change. Then I believe it was last night he PM'ed me and said that he's ready.

    However, I'll still take on one more. So you got it.

    BKStudio, MPEG-2 at it's default is good enough for the DVD.

    For those that want in, one more time just so we don't get things confused, here is what I would need for the DVD;

    SD footage only, that goes for you Vapes bud. Anyone who shot in HD and wants in on the DVD will have to down convert to SD;

    720x480

    29.97fps

    Keep it interlaced


    Very important, you dont want your entry to look blurry on TV. Meaning, set it to "Lower Fields first" when doing the final encoding to MPEG-2.


    Encode to MPEG-2.
    Default settings are good but if you feel like you have to adjust it, do not give a high data rate because it'll cause playback problems on the DVD. Keep the maximum rate between 7.0 - 7.5, and keep the minimum rate between 6.0 - 6.5.



    As far as a deadline. For now there isn't one, but at the same time I don't want to be waiting too long for it. So go nuts.....for now, but expect a deadline soon after the contest is over.

    DVD LCC Entrants

    1. NateCaauwe

    2. Vaportrail

    3. JediPastor

    4. BruceM

    5. PraetorDrew

    6. BKStudio



    And just so you guys know who the judges are;



    LCC Judges

    1. John Wass (DVCPRO-HDeditor)

    2. Ryan Weiber (Ryan_W)

    3. Michael Dorkman (Dorkman)

    4. Keith Abbot (Keith_Abbot)

    5. Brandon Flyte (BrandonFlyte)

    6. Brook Hubbs (brook_33)
  15. Evil-Henchman Force Ghost

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    Jul 17, 2004
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    Actually not neccessary as encoding MPEG-2 video to "Progressive" still keeps 2 fields per frame. The only difference is that each field is the same moment in time (1/24 or 1/30 of a second) while each fields in interlaced video is a different moment in time (1/48 or 1/60 of a second)... unless of course you're talking about converting progressive 23.976 fps to interlaced 29.97 fps which is an entirely different issue.

    "Progressive" 23.976 fps video encoded in the MPEG-2 DVD format actually plays back fine on a regular interlaced TV but ONLY as long as the proper VOB header information is present to allow the video to play back as both interlaced and progressive. That same information also fools the DVD player by stating that the frame rate is 29.97 fps, even when it actually isn't (by using field tags/markers). Also, 29.97 fps progressive video, or "30p" (such as what my Canon optura can record in) will also play fine on a normal TV even if the VOB header states that it is interlaced only. Nothing special has to be done in the case of 30p video.

    Of course if you're not familiar with what has to be done to make 23.976 fps progressive DVD video play back properly on your interlaced TV WITHOUT actually changing the frame rate, then yes, converting it to 29.97 fps interlaced DVD video is by far the easiest solution.

    Ouch, that statement is completely wrong. While it is true that DV video is always supposed to be lower field first, NTSC DVD video is always upper field first. a quick google search will prove this... also I encoded the DivX version of RvD2 at lower field first and encoded it to DVD. Man did that ever look weird. After that I looked it up and found that NTSC broadcast TV, DVD and HDTV is all upper field first.
  16. Sith-Man Force Ghost

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    Shouldn't you have an uneven number of judges so that theres no chance of a tie? (as highly unlikely as it it, you never know)





    -Jacob "Sith-Man" Sheppard
  17. ObiJuan2080 Force Ghost

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    Jan 31, 2004
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    well you learn something new everyday. Thanks.


    Judges don't determine who wins. The vote does. The judges give reviews, tips and advice for the next time.
  18. Sith-Man Force Ghost

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    Oct 19, 2004
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    Oh... lol, forgot about that, but now that I think about it, I remember that from last contest... I'm still bumed I didn't get mine filmed... I blame Canada though... And the evil squirrels.





    -Jacob "Sith-Man" Sheppard
  19. ObiJuan2080 Force Ghost

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    Jan 31, 2004
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    My mistake guys, we have 17 entries.
  20. BkStudio Jedi Knight

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    Jan 21, 2007
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    are you going to post the entrants names
  21. ObiJuan2080 Force Ghost

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    Jan 31, 2004
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    Nope, wrong again. It's 18 guys. I nearly missed one.

    And they are...in this order;

    1. Davsat5

    2. Wookieefett

    3. PraetorDrew

    4. TigerCraneFist & Darth_Carl

    5. JediPastor

    6. Calvinthejedi

    7. BruceM

    8. Matthew Ramsaur 1 (Non-TFN Member)

    9. Matthew Ramsaur 2 (Non-TFN Member)

    10. Matthew Ramsaur 3 (Non-TFN Member)

    11. NateCaauwe & IndyDreams

    12. Vaportrail & 1337mik3

    13. Whiteley79

    14. BKStudio

    15. FSFilms

    16. JediCow

    17. Silentbat

    18. Goddard11


    There you have it. In two days you guys will be able to see their entries.
  22. Darth_Abdax Jedi Master

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    Jun 12, 2005
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    So his last name's Dorkman? :D
  23. ObiJuan2080 Force Ghost

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    Jan 31, 2004
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    Holy Crap. I didn't see that lol. Good eye.


    LCC Judges

    1. John Wass (DVCPRO-HDeditor)

    2. Ryan Weiber (Ryan_W)

    3. Michael Scott (Dorkman)

    4. Keith Abbot (Keith_Abbot)

    5. Brandon Flyte (BrandonFlyte)

    6. Brook Hubbs (brook_33)
  24. Calvinthejedi Jedi Master

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    Mar 22, 2004
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    Sweet, I'm number 6 on the list. :D (6=2x3. 23! :) )
  25. VaporTrail Force Ghost

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    Huh.
    How do we go from #3 to #12 already? Recount, I say. Recount!


    Looks like a solid list, though. A little familiarity to it this time, even if only in name. Hopefully you'll post the names along with the links.. I don't think we used our TFn names in the entry. Actually, I don't even think we put the title in there. Cripes.

    Yeah.. we'll be touching up a few things before the HD version. This is what you and your stinkin' deadlines get, man.
    [face_hypnotized]

    -Vaportrail
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