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lines of dialogue from the PT that complement the OT

Discussion in 'Star Wars Saga In-Depth' started by DarthWolvo23, Feb 12, 2006.

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  1. Urkanoid

    Urkanoid Jedi Knight star 4

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    Here's one I've always loved from AotC:

    Anakin: Where are you going Master?
    Obi-Wan: For a drink!
    Obviously reminiscent of the Mos Eisly bit with Ben and Luke. Actually, the entire AotC sequence is based on the New Hope one, since they both end up with Obi-Wan striking down witless intergalactic villains, i.e. Dr.Evazan and Zam Wesell.

    And right before that Obi-Wan goes: "Why do I get the feeling you're going to be the death of me?"

    Oh, and of course:
    Obi-Wan RotS: Hello there!
    Obi-Wan ANH: Hello there!

    Luke RotJ: Nevertheless, I am taking Captain Solo and his friends. You can either profit by this or be destroyed. It's your choice, but I warn you not to underestimate my power.
    Anakin RotS: You underestimate my power!

     
  2. VaderIsCool

    VaderIsCool Jedi Youngling

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    Well for me an excellent complement to the OT from the PT would be:

    Obi Wan: Why do I get the feeling you're going to be the death of me?
    Anakin: Don't say that master. You're the closest thing to a father I have.

    I feel this complements the characters and how they develop into the drastic entities they've become in the OT.
     
  3. Cryogenic

    Cryogenic Force Ghost star 5

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    Anything is possible! -- Anakin, Episode II: Attack of the Clones

    There is no dialogue parallel to this in the OT. Actions speak louder than words. When Anakin overpowers his Darth Vader persona and saves his son, returning from the Dark Side like no previous Force user ever has, he renders those words more prophetic than his younger self could ever have known.
     
  4. Winston_Sith

    Winston_Sith Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    AOTC
    Dooku: "Master Windu, you have fought galantly! Worthy of recognition in the archives of the Jedi Order. Now... it is finished. Surrender, and your lives will be spared."
    Mace: "We will not be hostages to be bartered, Dooku."
    Dooku: "Then... I'm sorry, old friend."

    ROTJ
    C-3P0: "Victims of the almighty Sarlacc, his Excellency hopes that you will die honorably, but should any of you wish to beg for mercy, the Great Jabba the Hutt will now listen to your pleas."
    Han: "3P0!!! You tell that slimy piece of worm-ridden filth he'll get no such pleasure from us... right?"
    Luke: "Jabba! This is your last chance. Free us, or die."
    Jabba: (laughs) "Move him into position." "Put him in!"
     
  5. mandragora

    mandragora Jedi Master star 4

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    There is no parallel, but a complement:
    "You want the impossible" - Luke, to Yoda in ESB.
     
  6. PalpatineAntikristos

    PalpatineAntikristos Jedi Youngling star 3

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    There used to be a thread, which I can't find, about lines in the OT that have new meaning or nuance after viewing the PT. If someone can direct me to that thread, I'd appreciate it. Absent that, this is the closest thread I could find, and here are a few lines from the PT that gave lines from both the OT and PT new meaning for me, and complement each other, after watching TPM today.


    Sidious: "Execute Order 66."
    Clonetrooper: "It will be done my, Lord."

    Luke: "I can't understand how we got by those troops. I thought we were dead."
    Kenobi: "The Force can have a strong influence on the weak minded."

    After witnessing personally the effects of Order 66, I can see why Kenobi views the troopers as weak minded.


    Kenobi in TPM: "What if this plan fails, master? We could be stuck here for a long time."

    After the plans of the Jedi fail, and he has been on Tatooine for a long time, Kenobi says the following in ANH:

    "Obi-Wan Kenobi? Obi-Wan. Now there's a name I've not heard in a long, long time. A long time."


    Qui-Gon says, in TPM, "Is there anyone friendly to the Republic who might be able to help us?"

    Sidious says in ROTS, "Every single Jedi, including your friend Obi-Wan Kenobi is now an enemy of the Republic."

    Anakin says, also in ROTS, "I will not betray the Republic, my loyalties lie with the Chancellor and with the Senate, and with you."

    Kenobi, in ROTS says, "Anakin, my allegiance is to the Republic, to democracy!"
    Anakin replies, "If you're not with me, then you are my enemy."

    Now, after those quotes, it seems that Qui-Gon initially finds a friend of the Republic on Tatooine in the form of Anakin, a friend who later claims his loyalty lies with the Republic yet who is aiding its leader to subvert democracy and destroy the Republic as it is known. The truly loyal, if misguided, are sent into exile, fleeing from the heart of what was the Republic. They are now the enemy.


     
  7. DarthWolvo23

    DarthWolvo23 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    =D=
     
  8. darth_ral

    darth_ral Jedi Youngling star 1

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    thats a great one!!=D=
     
  9. LeiaSkywalker4

    LeiaSkywalker4 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Queen Amidala-TPM
    I was not elected to watch my people suffer and die while you discuss this invasion in a committee.

    Han Solo-TESB
    No time to discuss this in a committee!
    Princess Leia-TESB
    I'm not a committee!
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    Anakin-ROTS
    Easy, R2

    Luke Skywalker- ROTJ
    Easy, Chewie
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    Dexter Jexter-AOTC
    I'd say about, u, 12 parsecs outside the Rishi Maze.

    Han Solo-ANH
    It's the ship that made the Kessel run in less than 12 parsecs.
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    Super Battle Droids-ROTS
    What that?
    Get back to work. That nothin'

    Stormtroopers-ANH
    What was that?
    Ah, its nothing. Outgassing.
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    Obi-Wan Kenobi-ROTS
    Who? Who could have done this?

    Luke Skywalker-ANH
    Well, who...who has he found?
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    Darth Vader(Anakin)-ROTS
    Is she safe?

    Luke Skywalker-ANH
    Are you safe?
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    C3P0-ROTS
    Oh, no.

    Han Solo-TESB
    Oh, no.

    C3P0-TESB
    Oh, no.
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    General Grievious-ROTS
    General Kenobi. You are a bold one.

    Princess Leia-ANH
    Darth Vader. Only you could be so bold.
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  10. DarthWolvo23

    DarthWolvo23 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    again, great observations!
     
  11. MasterACyard

    MasterACyard Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Anakin AOTC: I can't leave her!
    Luke in ROTJ: Father, I won't leave you




    Padme in ROTS: Obi wan, there is still good in him....i know...
    Luke in ROTJ: There is still good in him
     
  12. Moog

    Moog Jedi Master star 1

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    C-3P0 in AOTC, on Tatooine
    "It seems that he is carrying a message from an Obi-Wan Kenobi. Master Anakin, do you know what he's talking about?"

    C-3PO in ANH, on Tatooine
    "He says he is the property of Obi-wan Kenobi, a resident of these parts, and it is a private message for him. Quite frankly sir, I don't know what he's talking about..."

    (I may have those lines slightly wrong)
     
  13. DARTHCLANDESTINE

    DARTHCLANDESTINE Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Moog, I just want to correct the line from C3PO if you don't mind (since you were not totally sure) :D

    C3PO: "He says he's carrying a message from an Obi Wan Kenobi. Master Ani, does that name mean anything to you?"

     
  14. JFuchs77

    JFuchs77 Jedi Master star 4

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    Padme in Revenge of the Sith: Obi-Wan. There's good in him. I know. I... know there's just... still good... in.. him... (Padme dies)

    Luke in Return of the Jedi: There's good in him. I've felt it.

    The line that refers to Darth Vader. There was definitely good left in him.
     
  15. LeiaSkywalker4

    LeiaSkywalker4 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    DarthWolvo23 I'm at it again.:D

    Queen Amidala-TPM
    I pray you will bring sanity and compassion back to the senate.

    Darth Vader-TESB
    I am altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further.
    I don't know if this works good together or not, but I used it because they both used the word pray.
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    Qui-Gon Jinn-TPM
    When you learn to quiet your mind, you'll hear them speaking to you.

    Yoda-TESB
    You will know when your calm...at peace...passsive.
    Clear your mind of questions.
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    Anakin-TPM
    I will, Mom
    I promise.

    Obi-Wan Kenobi-TPM
    You will be a Jedi, I promise.

    Luke-TESB
    I will.
    I will return.
    I promise.
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    Anakin-ROTS
    I'm gonna go help them out.

    Luke-TESB
    But I can help them.
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    Obi-Wan Kenobi-ROTS
    I'm so sorry.

    Lando-TESB
    I'm sorry

    Han-TESB
    I'm sorry, too
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    Darth Sidious-TPM
    She is more foolish than I thought.

    Obi-Wan Kenobi(old Ben)-ANH
    Who's the more foolish...the fool or the fool who follow's him.
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    Obi-Wan Kenobi-ROTS
    I understand.

    Luke-TESB
    I understand.
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  16. DarthWolvo23

    DarthWolvo23 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    i really like the lines that show PT qui-gon & OT yoda saying the same sorts of things

    they show how the OT jedi tried to adjust their ways and attune themselves more to the living force
     
  17. DARTHCLANDESTINE

    DARTHCLANDESTINE Jedi Youngling star 3

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    C3-PO: Don't worry about Master Luke. I'm sure he'll be all right.
    C3-PO: Don't worry, My Lady. I am sure he will be all right.
     
  18. therealmixmaster

    therealmixmaster Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Mace Windu: "This party's over!"
    Han Solo: "Didn't we just leave this party?"

    On first inspection you might not think it's much more to this than the coincidental similarity of whimsical dialogue, but I think it's interesting that Lucas is using similar dialogue for these characters. Perhaps there is more of a connection between these two than you'd think. Here's one I can think of...

    http://gs.michaelhopcroft.com/motif/264-2

    The way I see it Windu and Solo both have sceptical attitudes, particularly towards Anakin and Luke respectively. An attitude which Solo matures from but Windu doesn't... in fact it could be argued it's the reason for his death.
     
  19. DarthWolvo23

    DarthWolvo23 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    TPM: "I'm a person, and my name is Anakin"

    ROTJ: "That name no longer has any meaning to me"
     
  20. Ulicus

    Ulicus Lapsed Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    PT
    Anakin: I will be the most powerful Jedi ever! I promise you! I will even learn to stop people from dying!

    OT
    Luke: But you'll die...
    Anakin: Nothing... can stop that now...
     
  21. bry-maul

    bry-maul Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Yoda ESB
    "Do or do not. There is no try"

    From ROTS:
    Obi Wan - I will do what I must.
    Anakin - You will try.

    Gives me the willies everytime.

    Also interesting is that for Yoda, "doing" is most important and it is Obi Wan (the winner of the duel) who does and Anakin (the loser) who thinks he will only try.
     
  22. DarthWolvo23

    DarthWolvo23 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Good comments

    This is a bit of a stretch, but its my thread! :p

    Obi1: "if you strike me down, I will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine"

    Sidious: "You cannot stop me. Darth vader will become more powerful than either of us"
     
  23. Winston_Sith

    Winston_Sith Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    AOTC:

    Yoda: "The Dark Side clouds everything. Impossible to see, the future is."

    TESB:

    Yoda: "Always, with you, 'it cannot be done'."

    lol
     
  24. DARTHCLANDESTINE

    DARTHCLANDESTINE Jedi Youngling star 3

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    What about these guys ?

    AOTC - Old Man Lars talking : From the tracks, she was about halfway home when they took her. A hunting party of Tusken Raiders.

    ANH - Old man Ben talking : These tracks are side by side. Sandpeople always ride single file to hide their numbers.

    And this one maybe stretching it?.

    AOTC ? Anakin talking :They?re like animals, and I slaughtered them like animals.

    ANH- Luke talking: Why would Imperial troops want to slaughter Jawas?


    Below is a bit more intricate (you have been warned :p):


    TPM: Maul : If the trace was correct, I will find them quickly, Master.

    Darth Sidious: Move against the Jedi first... you will then have no difficulty taking
    the Queen back to Naboo, where she will sign the treaty
    .



    The above TPM premise all in one here -

    ANH Tarkin: Lord Vader will provide us with the location of the Rebel fortress by the time this station is operational. We will then crush the Rebellion with one swift stroke.






     
  25. Winston_Sith

    Winston_Sith Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Brilliant. Both men were well accustomed to the habits and mannerisms of the Sand people.


    Given the quotes above, Owen must have filled Luke's head with anti-Tusken messages from the day Obi-Wan brought him to the Hometead.

    Which is made even more powerful by Vader's statement about "...the power of the Force."

    Great Job.
     
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