Back in the days when Dingo used his 'real' screen name. You make a good point, though, and that is the one thing that TFN's Lit forum has going for it that no other site has: the sheer number and diversity of creators who sign up and participate in the forum. The publishers have their own boards and most of the creators have their own sites/boards/blogs and there are a lot of places to discuss the EU online, but TFN is the only one-stop-shop (for lack of a better term) where so many different fans and creators all mix together. It's special and it's worth fighting to preserve, IMHO. That being said, attitudes toward creators have definitely changed since the days when Kathy Tyers & the other NJO authors were around. I'm not saying it was all gushing, it wasn't (one of Mike Stackpole's last posts here was to apologize for Dark Tide), but as a whole creators were treated with more respect. If we're looking for ideas, this is something that can be improved. The creators don't have to come here and they certainly don't need us to tell them how to do their jobs - the people who sign their paychecks have got that covered. What we CAN offer is a community where they want to hang out and hear from/interact with fans. I'd have to disagree. In the 9 years I've been in and out of Lit, there has always been a forum bandwagon punching bag - the blows have just gotten bigger and louder. The difference with Ms. Traviss is that she did not go gently into that good night. Good for her, I say.