Lit Lost Stars, the Japanese webcomic

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  1. LelalMekha Jedi Grand Master

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    At any rate, I had Claudia Gray confirm it to me on Twitter: Jelucan was a Seppie world.
  2. Axrendale Jedi Padawan

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    Lost Stars is probably my favorite of all the Star Wars books that I've read to date - both new and old canon - so I was absolutely thrilled to see this. My chief impressions after reading the first three chapters:

    - I really like the artwork, which is nailing the vibe of classic-era Star Wars so far.

    - I think it's great that the artist is taking liberties with the material - varying some elements of the characters and plot around to get a slightly different spin on the tale. Book-to-comic adaptations (in fact all types of adaptations) that just faithfully reproduce everything page-for-page and line-for-line are incredibly boring to me. The best adaptations are the ones that stay true to what made the original worth adapting in the first place, but also aren't afraid to change things up to make it a truly fresh perspective on the story.

    - I'm definitely not a fan of giving Thane more POV space than Ciena however, and I really hope that will be changed in the future installments. The narrative in the book is split evenly between the two of them, but for my money Ciena is the more compelling character, and her story is the true beating heart of the book. Let's see more from her, please.

    - So does anyone know if the phrase "Lost Stars" actually refers to something specific in the story, or is it just a generic romance-y title that Claudia Gray came up with for her marvelous book?
  3. LelalMekha Jedi Grand Master

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    There hasn't been a new chapter yet, because the mangaka is taking a break. Nevertheless, they did post character sketches instead (under spoiler tags because of the size):
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    I assume the third image gives us our first look at Jude Edivon and Nash Windrider.
  4. Charlemagne19 Force Ghost

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    Nash Windrider is Zack Fair from FFVII?

    AWESOME.

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  5. LelalMekha Jedi Grand Master

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    I know Imperial officers are allowed to keep their hair long, but that hairdo doesn't look like it fits the regulations!
  6. Vthuil Force Ghost

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    Yeaaaah, manga-style or no manga-style, I'm just not going to be able to mentally picture Nash with a ponytail more than half as long as his arm.
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  7. GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin + Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque

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    That ponytail is certainly a wind rider.


    Missa ab iPhona mea est.
  8. LelalMekha Jedi Grand Master

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    Ba dum tss!

    (I'm less worried about the ponytail than the 15-inch long flyaway lock.)
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  9. Barriss_Coffee Chosen One

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    Wow that's not how I imagined those characters at all. I thought Jude was bigger. Also how the hell did Nash get that hair into the Academy? Tarkin probably took one look at that and made his decision to blow up Alderaan then and there.
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  10. LelalMekha Jedi Grand Master

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    Again, I'm not sure these are meant to be Jude and Nash, but that seems logical (pale-haired female officer with freckles, long-haired thin male officer).
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  11. Barriss_Coffee Chosen One

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    You're probably right. But Nash... sheesh. They took "long hair" and ran with it. I was thinking short ponytail length, like Ganner Krieg. It's there but isn't punk Rapunzel.
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  12. DARTH_MU Jedi Master

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    wait a minute.

    How can this scene be in a young adult book? The target audience is like 13 to 19.

    I may be old fashioned but surely this "don't stop" nonsense belongs in an adult book? I mean, surely I'm not that out of time...
  13. Iron_lord Force Ghost

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    It's quite common for YA books to allude to intimacy - they just don't show it in detail. Even 80s-era YA books have the occasional such reference.

    A good rule of thumb - if it's suitable for PG-13, it's suitable for books aimed at 13 year olds.
  14. Revanfan1 Force Ghost

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    Yeah, that definitely seems to be who they're intended to be.

    @Barriss_Coffee "punk Rapunzel." Yes. [face_laugh]
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  15. JediBatman Jedi Knight

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    Geez, probably-Nash looks like a Kingdom Hearts villain. In the book I wasn't originally sure what Nash was going to do after Alderaan, but here it's like "Gee, I wonder who the bad guy is . . ."
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  16. Charlemagne19 Force Ghost

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    He's kind of a designated villain, isn't he? Barring a sequel, Nash doesn't do anything evil but voice his support for the Second Death Star.
  17. Revanfan1 Force Ghost

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    Yeah, he's not a villain, per se. I feel like the epilogue sort of set him up as becoming one, though. If he was a Force-user, he'd gone full-on yellow-eyed fury at that point. The petty pleasure he took in Thane's brother's incompetence definitely wasn't nice-guy Nash from the beginning of the book.
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  18. Charlemagne19 Force Ghost

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    Yeah, that's my one issue with the book. Nash is used to show an "evil" Imperial and Ciena looks down upon him but he has no one but the Empire to fall back on and none of his friends ever reach out to him. His reasons aren't any more crazy than Ciena siding with the Empire against her own mother, just more extreme.

    I do think if we ever get Lost Stars II: Thane Rescues Ciena from a Firing Squad that he WILL be a villain.
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  19. Revanfan1 Force Ghost

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    The thing with Nash is that he was used to prove a point made by several Rebels in the book: they told Thane, regarding Ciena, "the Empire takes good people and strips away that goodness until there's nothing left of it." Ciena manages to avoid that fate, but Nash became an example of that and a cautionary tale, of sorts. He was exactly what the Rebels thought Ciena were.
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  20. Charlemagne19 Force Ghost

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    Interestingly, I took that attitude as a sign the Rebels who talked about it were WRONG. Because Ciena was redeemable (if she needed to be redeemed at all) and all it required was someone reaching out to them with love. Those who dismissed the Imperials as evil and irredeemable were going against the films that forgiveness and love were powerful forces.

    Ciena, herself, does it to Nash and dismisses him as a fanatic but as far as he knows, his only friend left in the world is a loyal Imperial like him.

    Mind you, again, I think he'll probably try to kill Thane in the future or help found the First Order but I wouldn't be surprised if he also ended up dying trying to help Ciena escape the Empire in a sequel. You could go multiple directions.
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  21. Vialco Jedi Grand Master

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    Bah. My headcanon is that Ciena gets a fair trial, Thane testifies to her character and she gets released with time served. She and Thane then found an independent shipping firm and live happily ever after.
  22. JediBatman Jedi Knight

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    Nash is somewhat of a tragic villain. His is the story of how the Empire took an idealist kid from Alderaan and turned him into a foaming zealot. In a way his story kind of parallels Ciena's, the only difference is that she eventually realized she was in denial about what the Empire was while Nash doubled down on the Imperial dogma and justifications as a coping mechanism.
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  23. Charlemagne19 Force Ghost

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    My headcanon is a comedy of errors which begins with Thane being horrified Ciena is going to be executed by a kangaroo trial of Rebellion soldiers. It turns out Ciena was fighting at Jakku months after the surrender agreement (which she didn't know about) and that's her "crime." Thane thus rescues her from the Rebellion, much to her annoyance and she slowly starts to come back even as she deals with the fact the surrender means she "can" leave the Empire (but Thane points out how ludicrous that rules-lawyering is). Nash finds out about their actions and gets a Imperial Special Forces crew to come after them and there's a bunch of explosions, forgiveness, and melodrama.

    In the end, Nash spares Thane and returns to the First Order--believing it can be redeemed from the inside. Thane and Ciena retire back on their homeworld.

    I call it, "Book I really want Claudia to write."
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  24. DARTH_MU Jedi Master

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    Personally I think reform it from the inside of anything is a pipe dream.

    of course Ciena will get a show trial and get executed. (if there is no sequel).

    If there is a sequel, she will probably renounce the empire because of love. sigh

    in my headcanon Ciena will get a show trial and Nash rescues her and bring her into the first order. Thane is "struggled" ten years later by nr fantatics on the ground of "first order s ut lover. He escapes the NR, realizing beside the big three the rebel alliance is no different from the Empire morality wise. Corrupt to the core.
  25. Charlemagne19 Force Ghost

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    Oh, we've seen TFA so we know the First Order turns out evil despite Rae Sloane's plans. The irony is that the FO *DOES* join the NO for awhile.

    Eh, there's an interesting piece of fanfic I considered writing but decided against. It was a vignette where Ciena finds out that Mas Amedda (the legal head of the Empire) had surrendered the Empire and ordered all troopers to lay down their arms. In other words, that she was free to live her own life and stop fighting. Thane FINALLY catching a clue that she was Lawful Neutral is furious that she's only now following her heart because of a legal technicality.
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