Official Info Lucasfilm Confirms: Michael Arndt To Write Screenplay For Episode VII

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens - Spoilers Allowed' started by Diggs, Nov 8, 2012.

  1. -NaTaLie- Force Ghost

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    That's what I think, too. I mean, if the prequels were so hated, who's buying all those blurays? Besides, even if Lucas lost respect of adult fans, he could still connect with kids - and that's what was most important to him. Star Wars was always intended for younger audience, after all.

    However, I do hope the ST is going to have a better script and acting :)
  2. Arawn_Fenn Chosen One

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    For what? Is this some kind of sanctuary complete with a prohibition against fact-checking?

    "In TPM we don't really know who are villains are or what they want to achieve" is a false statement, heedlessly copy-and-pasted from RLM.

    Save your indignation for pictures of George Lucas straining, or something.

    And this supposed "point" fails, because the real villain of TPM is Palpatine, who does not lack in the villainy department ( forgetting "wipe them out", are we? ), and there is no lack of "clarity" in expressing what the villains are trying to achieve. The TF is trying to steal a planet; Palpatine is trying to get elected; Maul is trying to kill Jedi at the behest of Palpatine. The famous talking point is simply wrong. Maybe some people need black armor and scary breathing to accept villains, but this shouldn't be held against the film.

    Take a step back and look at what you're saying here: there are "laws of filmmaking", but when Lucas broke them it was hugely successful. So when you're breaking the all-important laws, you have to make sure what you're doing works. So whether or not your end product works really has nothing whatsoever to do with these alleged laws.
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  3. Angel Eyes Jedi Padawan

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    Im Sensing Liam Neeson as a hologram if this rumor holds up.
  4. cbagmjg Force Ghost

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    There's a huge lack of comraderie in the PT compared to the OT. I'm sure that had more to do with the story than anything, especially when you already know the central character is going to betray everyone. That said, it still was needed.
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  5. Garth Maul Manager Emeritus

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    I have no trouble with fact checking, it's your attitude.
  6. Diggs Force Ghost

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    Arawn - read the rest of my post - I was making a point about the lack of a very clear villain with a very clear goal. If you can't see that, or aren't open to another point of view then let's just move on.
  7. The Hellhammer Grand Judicator of the New Film Territories

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    The hologram version would work nice. Luke finds some holocrons or regular data storage devices and sees a few holograms of the Old Masters.
    That would in fact be better, in my opinion, than having everyone as a Force ghost.
    The ghost thing is supposed to be kinda special, and having everyone floating around would diminish it.
  8. Angel Eyes Jedi Padawan

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    Oh Yeah. I'm totally cool with Michael Arndt. Very solid choice. This bodes well.
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  9. ThatWanFromStewjon Jedi Grand Master

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    With the Go Fast stripes???
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  10. yodasbum Force Ghost

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    At a lot of the conventions, Star Wars events and chats with students (I'm a teacher and the Star Wars stuff in my classroom always gets the kids chatting) and it is remarkable how much the PT is regarded by them. Also the merchandise in the high street as opposed to the specialist Sci Fi stores is almost exclusively PT or TCW.

    I have never known such criticism of the OT especially Empire as I've read on the boards this week. That's alright I don't care what anyone else thinks because I love all 6. Interestingly, to me anyway, is that I have watched Jedi twice in the last few weeks and it is a far better film than I remember. also some of the bits I hated (Vader "Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!' Didn't as much. Maybe not choosing to watch any of the films, as opposed to when I've caught them on TV, gave me the space to judge them for what they are not what I want them to be.

    I think that some of the issues that faced the PT will be absent for the ST. In that I mean things were known such as the clone wars which I had imagined for 22 years. The Duel of the Heroes had been visualised by me for 2 decades. I'm certain that you imagined these ideas certain ways yourself. The PT could never match my ideas so I wasn't judging it fairly at times.

    Now Arndt Is writing and will not have that pressure. Once the direction of the films is established- old cast, new cast, well into to the future or EU- maybe we can all give the ST total support.
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  11. Angel Eyes Jedi Padawan

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    Supposedly Qui-Gon was the one who figured out the trick.
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  12. Diggs Force Ghost

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    Totally agree that kids seem to love the PT as equally as the OT.
  13. Samnz Force Ghost

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    Your problem is that your looking for a very specific kind of "villain". The Neomodians are perfectly villanous - they're attacking and invading a planet just for money, because their greedy and egoistic. That's bad. That's evil. And that makes them perfectly legit villains.
    You may like the Empire better but, you know, I'm sure you'd hate the Neimodians just as much if they did the to you what they did to the Naboo.

    Well, I did root for Amidala, her people and Qui-Gon. What's wrong with me? Can you help me?

    Could we just stop this, people? Yeah, a lot of you guys were disappointed with the PT. Others were not. This is supposed to be a discussion about Michael Arndt and his work on Episode VII. It would be much more productive to discuss about Ardnt's previous works, which are pretty promising.
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  14. The Hellhammer Grand Judicator of the New Film Territories

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    Agreed, but at this point it seems to me that it wouldn't have much sense in him appearing to Luke, who doesn't even know who Qui-Gon is.
    Not at first at least. Maybe later on in the films, when he finds out (and if he finds out) about Qui-Gon they have a little chat about Force.
    Either way, I'm cool with the old Jedi appearing in either form as long as it's not overused. AND that it makes sense within the story, not just have them there because...hey, let's have cameos!
  15. Diggs Force Ghost

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  16. ThatWanFromStewjon Jedi Grand Master

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    The agrument could be made, using the examples you give, especially in regards to villains, that they are more complex and thought out in the Prequels merely by the fact that you don't know what their up to, whereas ANH is just simple and straight forward.

    Though, it really isn't that hard to figure out what TPM is about.

    I don't get why people thing the plot is complicated!!!
  17. Lord Tyrannus Jedi Master

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    This dude has no experience for science fiction! All he knows is kiddy stuff like Little Miss Sunshine or Toy Story 3. No. He's not directing it. That's not true. That's impossible!!

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  18. Angel Eyes Jedi Padawan

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    Yeah, next thing you know they'll be flying ships and getting together for potlucks.
  19. Diggs Force Ghost

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    Perhaps I explained myself poorly. I understand what TPM is about. I just don't think it's anywhere near as compelling as ANH. But as pointed out above, maybe we should move on, and I do take your point about simplicity vs complexity.

    The key thing is that Arndt is a very good screenwriter with a love of SW that should make for a potent combination. I think he's going to nail it.
  20. darthgator1217 Force Ghost

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  21. Lord Tyrannus Jedi Master

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  22. cbagmjg Force Ghost

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    Arndt's gonna have pressure from the big EU fans to meet or exceed the material they've been reading for25+ years, not to mention the OT itself.
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  23. Lord Tyrannus Jedi Master

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    Ok, that's good. At least he's a Star Wars fan. I change my opinion about him as director, slightly...
  24. Arawn_Fenn Chosen One

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    I already addressed that, so you can drop the "you didn't read my post" antics. The fact remains that the villains of the film are clear, including an entirely clear main villain, and the goals of the villains are entirely clear. They have been spelled out for you. The talking point is simply wrong, as difficult as that may be to accept.
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  25. Diggs Force Ghost

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    "At these talks, Arndt always tells attendees that
    Star Wars
    ’ enduring appeal has to do with resolving its protagonists goals’ nearly simultaneously, at the climax of the movie. In the comments section of a discussion about a
    Star Wars
    talk Arndt gave at the Austin Film Festival in 2010, one attendee of the seminar notes, “Arndt stated that if a writer could resolve the story’s arcs (internal, external, philosophical) immediately after the Moment of Despair at the climax, he or she would deliver the Insanely Great Ending and put the audience in a euphoric state. The faster it could happen, the better. By [Arndt’s] reckoning, George Lucas hit those three marks at the climax of
    Star Wars
    within a space of 22 seconds.”