Discussion in 'Star Wars Saga In-Depth' started by Force Smuggler, Dec 12, 2013.
Anakin and Obi-Wan.
Maybe in the ST we'll see more interaction between Luke and Han?
That's crazy talk!
Han and Obiwan. Ditch the whiny Skywalkers and let's get a beer!
Luke and Han by a parsec !
Anakin and Obiwan - no chemistry , poor performances , just never worked , real shame would've helped the prequels enormously if this friendship had been better portrayed .
Id have to say that Han and Luke are the better friends in that it's an eternally loyal relationship and they didn't try to murder each other on multiple occasions, but I personally enjoy the Anakin-Obi combo much more. Luke and Han seem to only bond (on screen) through their shared experiences and sense of loyalty, while with A&O you see more interpersonal interaction.
In a way though, the actual over-arching friendship of the entire sage is R2 and 3PO
QFT. Couldn't agree more.
For me, Luke/Han never transcends the "aw shucks, we are friends" wrap-up of ANH. Anakin/Obi-Wan, however, explores a greater range of relationship dynamics throughout the three films. The fact that they're not frequently chumming around I see as appropriate to the tragic tale being told, and the lack of over-bearing or obvious warmth is likewise essential, as it makes me wonder how both Anakin and the Republic's path may have differed if Qui-Gon survived and didn't have to pass on the responsibility of training Anakin in a dying wish. I realize that's a major weakness for a lot of viewers, but again, it's a strength for me; and more than a strength, it's the whole point. When I see Obi-Wan in the prequels, I don't just see a teacher or brother/father figure, but a representation of a Republic that is basically just and determined to strive for peace, yet inevitably flawed enough that it can't help but aid evil even as it fights it. And when I see Anakin, I don't just see a whiny teen who argues with his teacher, but rather the very hope of the Jedi destroying the system that helped cultivate it in the name of misguided dogma.
So pretty much what others have said. Luke/Han is the better snapshot of a healthy friendship. But for me, Anakin/Obi-Wan is far more of an integral and intriguing component of its trilogy.
In the films Luke and Han, but if you add the EU then Anakin and Obi-wan.
I am a Anakin fan mostly because of the EU books and TCW cartoons and the orginal cartoons by Genndy Tartarkovsky. That was were they got the friendship right. Almost the first half of the ROTS novelization is devoted to the rescue of the Chancellor and there friendship shows eve stronger there because you have their internal thoughts plus Matthew Strovers "This is how it feels to be Anakin/Obiwan sections" In James Lucerno's Labryinth of Evil you have the two of them Bar hopping at one point. In the 2d Clone Wars you have the whole scene were they Anakin eats bugs to gross out Obi-wan. In the TCW cartoons they had severa great arcs where there friendship really shines and then in Season four the council sends Obi-wan on a secret mission where they set it up that a bounty Hunter has killed Obi-wan, when in actuality Obi-wan went on a mission impersonating the bounty hunter and Anakin thought his master was dead and was even more of an emotional wreck then normal.
You're crazy talk!
Same here. I absolutely loathe the PT presentation of Anakin and find none of that "and he was a good friend" stuff that Obi-Wan mentioned in ANH. While their friendship is shown in full effect in TCW.
Luke and Han for the films.
Anakin and Obi-Wan for TCW.
I don't like either. Neither is truly handled well or in-depth enough to me.
Is it Tarkin and Dooku?
Funny you should say that both Christopher Lee and Peter Cushing were real life best friends, Lee was at one point considered for the role of Tarkin.
That'd be interesting to see a 35 year-younger Lee on Star Wars.
Drenn: Lee and Cushing were true friends and their bonds is indeed part of why I admire them so. I would say yes, Tarkin and Dooku except I never saw the boys together in SW.
Since the creation of TCW, it is Anakin and Obi-Wan by far for me(much more multi-faceted). Luke and Han's friendship is really only interesting and fun in ANH, after that there really isn't much to it with Han being concerned with Leia and Luke dealing with his father. Honestly, Han and Luke isn't even the most interesting friendship that includes Han(Han and Chewie is better, and IMO Lando and Han is more fun as well.)
Anakin and Obi-Wan. My favorite example is when Anakin drops back into the elevator and Obi-Wan activates his lightsaber and nearly strikes Anakin saying, "Oh It's you.." Anakin gives Kenobi a disgruntled look and an argument breaks out. XD
Why do we have to make a choice?
Was just curious.
Neither. My vote is for Han and Chewie.