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CT Luke and Padme

Discussion in 'Classic Trilogy' started by Darth Bradius, May 11, 2014.

  1. darth-sinister

    darth-sinister Manager Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    True and that was back in 1990-91 when he wrote that. Just as he did with the Clone Wars info that was in his books. That just goes towards what Lucas said about the EU authors getting a bit excited at times. Granted, he didn't know at the time what was all going to change, but Zhan did go quite a bit into detail that he probably shouldn't have.
     
  2. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Chosen One star 10

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    Didn't a lot of Zahn's info come from West End Games?
     
  3. darth-sinister

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    It did. But the fact is that he told a story about the Clone Wars before Lucas set out to make the official story. Notice that after his books come out, the rest of the stories don't touch upon that time period and instead focus on the OT era. The Han Solo books fall under the category of post PT and even then, were in danger of being contradicted by ROTS. You can tell that as each story came out, more and more guidelines came down because of some contradiction or another. That's why the story group now is trying to keep it all in line without going too far.
     
  4. Iron_lord

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    Actually, both Han Solo trilogies were before the PT (though the second one came out just before TPM did).

    Plus his story wasn't about the Clone Wars per se - but about surviving cloning equipment. The references to the Clone Wars were vague enough not to be problematic.

    Lucas specifically amended part of the Thrawn trilogy before they came out (the Noghri used to be the Sith, C'baoth used to be an Obi-Wan clone) - if he objected to the Clone Wars references, wouldn't he have asked for them to be amended as well?
     
  5. darth-sinister

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    At that point, Lucas hadn't really set in stone what the Clone Wars were about. It wouldn't be until he started writing in 94, that he had an idea. By that point, the stuff was set in stone. And what I meant by the Han Solo books was that Crispin's novels gave an origin, taking all the various bits and put it together chronologically. Then we had Lucas who was going to have Han as a seven year old child living with Chewbacca on Kashyyyk during the Battle of Kashyyyk, which would contradict everything established in "The Paradise Snare". Basically it would have been like what happened with Boba Fett.
     
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  6. Iron_lord

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    In The Making of Star Wars - there's allusions to Lucas's ideas for Han's early life- "raised by space gypsies" I think was the phrase used.
     
  7. Darth_Nub

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    He also vetoed the idea of the villain of Dark Empire being a 'Vader imposter'. I think he was closely involved early on in nixing ideas in the EU that directly contradicted specific ideas he was dealing with for the PT (such as the Noghri being the Sith), but also ones that were a bit too wacky and perhaps went against what he considered to be the essence of the story, rather than just the details. An evil Obi-Wan clone or some smartass stomping around in a Vader outfit would have fit that bill.
    The cloned Palpatine was allegedly his idea as a replacement for the Vader imposter in DE - given that DE was developed in 1989 for Marvel, prior to Heir to the Empire (but eventually released after, by Dark Horse), that would also explain why he didn't want a clone of Obi-Wan in HTTE, apart from it taking things a bit too far, and perhaps tarnishing one of the main characters of the PT before it had even been made.

    Anything else, well, he always did regard the EU as separate to 'his thing', so he probably didn't want to have to spend half his time approving/vetoing content he hadn't thought through himself yet. If they had to be retconned, tough.
    For the Clone Wars, I seem to recall that the references in the Zahn books weren't so far off the mark that it would have been a major issue to GL at the time.
     
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  8. darth-sinister

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    Well, he was hands off of the NJO save for nixing Luke's death, approving Chewie's death and exchanging Jacen for Anakin. I think he was mostly involved when it came to affecting his work directly. Like with "Shadows Of The Empire".
     
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