CT Luke's Father: It does become a big deal

We know that having Vader proclaim he is Luke's father is something Lucas patched in for ESB. But, it changes everything about ANH. Luke was, a humble farm boy who stumbles upon a message intended for Obi Wan before the revelation. Afterwards, it means the Force directed the message to Luke. It becomes far more than a coincidence. Could it have been the spirit of Qui Gon?

 

Or the spirit of Mace Windu, or the spirit of Darth Maul, the spirit of 1000 other dead Jedi, the spirit of Shmi, etc... Put it any way you like it's the plot of the saga plain and simple.

 

I don't think it really changes the point the OP stated.

 

Did the Force guide the message, or was it Artoo that piloted the pod, from orbit, as close to the Lars farm as he could remember, and heading that direction in the hope of getting a lift from the Jawas?

 

i don't see the connection there. Luke and Obi-Wan were on the same planet ,living not far from each other.

Lucas didn't have the big picture (such as Obi-Wan there looking over Luke) so it's remarkable how many thing's did work out right.

 

All good points, I like the idea of R2 perhaps playing a part. And perhaps, with the foreknowledge that Luke is the son of Vader, Obi Wan would have reached out to Luke if the message had made to him first as intended.

I would have loved to see the epic play out as Luke was NOT Vader's son, and simply searched for vengeance on his father's behalf.

 

It feels pretty clear to me that it's R2 who's following Princess Leia's direction to find Obi-Wan and give him the message. I don't read any further into it beyond that.

 

Yeah I agree with Among the Clouds on this one. What she said is the absolute basic idea behind R2 going to find old Ben.

 

Yes, I agree to a point. But once you know Luke is Vader's son, it becomes a pretty big coincidence the plans should fall in his hands. Once again, I know it was not in the original plot movement, I am just saying once it is announced in ESB, it changes the way Luke's involvement in ANH could be perceived.

 

If you want to look at it that way that's fine. Obi-Wan has been looking after Luke for nineteen years. They live fairly close to each other. In that light, I don't think it's too much of a stretch that R2 bumped into Luke before going on to find Obi-Wan.

 

r2 went to the lars. he'd been there before and he remember's everything.

 

The Jedi had planned since the birth of the twins to go into hiding and wait until the time was right to return. Lucas and Kasdan had an explanation for this, though it wasn't written into ROTJ itself, but was in the novelization.

OBI-WAN: "The Organa household was high-born and politically quite powerful in that system. Leia became a princess by virtue of lineage... no one knew she'd been adopted, of course. But it was a title without real power, since Alderaan had long been a democracy. Even so, the family continued to be politically powerful, and Leia, following in her foster father's path, became a senator as well. That's not all she became, of course... she became the leader of her cell in the Alliance against the corrupt Empire. And because she had diplomatic immunity, she was a vital link for getting information to the Rebel cause. That's what she was doing when her path crossed yours... for her foster parents had always told her to contact me on Tatooine, if her troubles became desperate."

So Leia was to do that, but that didn't work out so well. And yes, the droids arriving at the farm rather than at Obi-wan was not a mere coincidence. Nothing happens by chance as Qui-gon would say. The Force had been, in its own way, pushing things. It is why Obi-wan found Luke as he did. Because he would have foreseen Luke in danger and it is a long way from the Judland Wastes where he lived, to where the farm was near the Western Dune Sea.

 

Even before Empire it is a coincidence. Luke was NEVER just some random farmboy. In ANH alone, he is the son of powerful Jedi Knight, Obi Wan's friend. Someone Obi Wan calls the "greatest star pilot in the galaxy" and a "cunning warrior".

 

The force can make the improbable into a reality.

(1) Leia was originally en-route to Alderaan. Of all the places in space that Vader could've intercepted her ship, it was Tatooine.
(2) The Imperial officers happen to hold fire on the escape pod. Really, what's the reservation against destroying an escape pod that has no life forms on it?
(3) The Jawas happen to capture R2 when he was lost
(4) Of all the farms on Tatooine, they bring him to Luke's homestead

What's the probability of all those events happening? It's probably not very high.

The force can influence the probabilities of events.

(Not to start a longer, tangential discussion, but to me, this also applies to how God can make improbable outcomes into reality in real life too)

 

I think we are on the same page

 

Fiction defies long odds all the time. The mundane isn't usually very interesting.

Walter White's BIL just happened to be a DEA agent who took him a ride-a-long. Jesse Pinkman just happened to be one of White's former students that he saw at a drug bust and became his gateway into the drug world. That's not an everyday scenario, either, but that's fiction for you.

 

Well, actually, Leia was at Tatooine on purpose. She was trying to recruit Obi-Wan.

 

Ah yes, now I remember. The full line goes something like "But I'm afraid my mission to bring you to Alderaan has failed." When I made the last post, it seems that I only remembered the Alderaan point.

Well, in light of this, only (2) and (4) of my original points still hold.

 

I must admit I hate people shoehorning in hindsight 'facts' into a piece of fiction. Talk about missing the point of appreciation.

 

That's a shame, because I love it when people are stiff and rigid with no sense of fun. lol, love 2 ya.