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Luke's Jedi training explained

Discussion in 'Classic Trilogy' started by DarthGere, Jun 4, 2005.

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  1. DarthGere

    DarthGere Jedi Youngling star 2

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    For quite some time there has been discussion on why Luke's Jedi training was completed so fast in comparison to the Jedi training of the Old Republic.

    Well, in ROTJ, Yoda says: "No more training do you require. Already know you that which you need."
    I take it that the Old Republic Jedi needed the long training because they played such a big part in taking care of the entire galaxy. There's probably a lot to learn and a lot to know if youre gonna do that. What Luke really needed was only basic knowledge of the Force. That's why his training was relativly short.
     
  2. DarthJersey

    DarthJersey Jedi Youngling

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    Also, Luke was incredibly strong in the Force so he simply didn't need all the guidance most other Jedi did. Yoda probably also sensed that Luke had the strength to resist the temptation of the Dark Side, unlike his father.
     
  3. sepharih

    sepharih Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Also, Luke has the knowledge, all he needs is to reinforce those skills with practice. I imagine that's why it takes years to learn those skills.
     
  4. JudasJonny

    JudasJonny Jedi Youngling

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    His training may have been short but it was obviously enough. After all, he did defeat his Dad and managed to resist the tempation of the dark side

    However, his lack of training became apparent when the Emperor turned on him, maybe he could never have been prepared for that, no matter how much time he had.
     
  5. DarthJohnkenobi

    DarthJohnkenobi Jedi Padawan star 4

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    His lack of training? It was his training that prevented him from killing Darth, thus going over to the Dark Side. By throwing away his lightsaber, Luke was demonstrating his willingness to sacrifice his life for the benefit of others. Without his training, he never would've been able to take that action and would've killed Vader, thus going over to the Dark Side and probably defeating the Rebellion.
     
  6. DARTH-SHREDDER

    DARTH-SHREDDER Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    "After all, he did defeat his Dad and managed to resist the tempation of the dark side."

    WWWWWWWWWWWWWWRRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and right.

    He DID NOT beat his dad; his dad could have wooped his ass any time but didn't have the heart to kill his own son. And he didn't see it coming when Luke went dark.

    But yes Luke resisted the temptation of the dark side.
     
  7. ObiAndrew6

    ObiAndrew6 Jedi Youngling

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    I always thought that Luke got a kind of crash course training. First off, I think that between ESB and ANH, Luke tried to train on his own.. Using the romote, and practicing lifting objects, but never really got anywhere. Hence his line. "But I'v learned so much..." in Yodas hut. In the old republic, what did they do. They took everything slow, meditated, but never really learned anything specific, it was more gradual. They went on missions with their master. Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan went to Naboo, and im sure Anakin and Obi-Wan did thigs like that too. Did Luke and Yoda travel the galaxy looking for problems for them to solve, no. They stayed and practice and practiced and practiced, then Luke ran off. Luke was learned specifics, and was trained much faster.
     
  8. Eternal_Jedi

    Eternal_Jedi Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    I've always taken the line "No more training do you require. Already know you that which you need." to mean that while Luke did not complete his formal training with Yoda, and left before he was ready, his confrontation with Vader on Bespin taught him more than any Jedi Master ever could.

    He didn't just learn more about the Force and how to fight with a lightsaber. Luke emerged from his confrontation with Vader battered and beaten, but with a maturity beyond his years. His confrontation with Vader, and the subsequent revelation of his parentage, taught Luke humility and patience, and a greater appreciation and understanding of the world around him.

    After his duel with Vader on Bespin, Luke is no longer the impetuous, reckless, excitement-seeking, enthusiastic naive kid from the moisture farm. All of Yoda's wise words could not have taught Luke what he learned from his confrontation with Vader.

    When he visits Yoda in ROTJ, he carries himself with a maturity and humility that he did not during his first visit. He has confronted the Dark Side, and resisted its temptation. He has learned the truth of his father's identity, yet still has compassion for him. In the span of a few short months, maybe a year (it's hard to tell), Luke has learned what many of those in the old Jedi Order never really mastered in a lifetime.

     
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