Mace Goes for the Kill: Legal???

What does the Jedi Code say about killing a Sith Lord posing as the Chancellor of the Republic with 100% control of the senate the courts and the opposition in a war destroying countless innocent lives?

Anakin was going to do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to personally secure Palpatine's arrest, and Palpatine was resisting arrest. Who stands to judge Mace for trying to end it? If you side with Anakin on the matter, then George Lucas is telling you that you are on the wrong side.

 

However, I think "unarmed" and "defenceless" might take on slightly different meanings when a Sith Lord is involved.

Precisely. He's a threat. Mace has permission to kill him, basically.

And in the movie, Anakin was not punished for killing Dooku. Interesting to note.

 

How was Anakin supposed to arrest Dooku anyway? Or was he supposed to let Dooku sit there while they all left, allowing Dooku to coordinate a plan to intercept the Jedi... yadda yadda yadda?

Whether you shoot Dooku with a rocket or slice off his head is not the issue; it's whether you do it with hate, anger and revenge on the mind.

 

^^^Score.

My thoughts exactly ETC.

 

Wise words ETC

 

After disarming Dooku, they four of them would've proceeded to the bridge to force Grievous to surrender. Then pilot the Invisible Hand down to Courscant.

 

... what would they have done with Dooku while they were engaging Grievous?

 

I'm laughing at thoughts of a handless Dooku trying to "hold on tight" in the elevator shaft as the ship starts to tilt.



Edit: Wow, Sinister! Mod on deck and it's late, yo!

 

All Mace has to do is yell: "He's comin' right for us!" and anything he does afterwards is nice and legal.

 

Yeah it's legal. He's fighting against a Sith Lord who has already resisted arrest (thus killing 3 Jedi Masters) and single-handedly started a galactic war which has claimed the life of millions.

 

By the laws of the Republic, Mace acted illegally. If Palpatine, in esence, WAS the senate and the courts, then any action taken against him was illegal.

This obvious point aside, the senate had not voted to arrest the chancellor, made no demands that he immediately give up his power, or in any way indicated that he was acting improperly. The Jedi just show up, swords drawn, demanding his surrender. Granted, Palps is a nasty, bad, evil fellow, but this sounds more like a coup than a legal arrest. Why do you think that Yoda was sweating the consequences of talking about an arrest when they did that holo-conference? They were also going to "temporarily" hijack the senate in addition to the arrest so as to "ease the transition."

Anakin had reason to be suspicious of these goings on.

 

^^^^^^

Hence my lack of faith in the legal system.....

 

Yeah it's legal. He's fighting against a Sith Lord who has already resisted arrest (thus killing 3 Jedi Masters) and single-handedly started a galactic war which has claimed the life of millions.


Its illegal regardless if he was a Sith or not. Sith or not, hes still the elected Chancellor who was kept in office because they elected him to stay in office. If the Jedi overthrow him then thats an act of treason or a coup. Its like the army going into the white house to kill the president because they think hes a bad man.

And Taking Palps out because hes a Sith would probably be discrimination also, if they have such a thing in Star Wars

Jedi had a righteous cause, but it doesnt make that a legal cause

 

So then Anakin was right?

 

So then Anakin was right?

from a certain point of view.

 

Being legal does not necessarily make something right.

There was a time when it was illegal to help fugitive slaves in the U.S. or to harbor Jews in NAZI Germany.

 

It doesn't MATTER if it's legal. He's SHAFT, m*********er!

Seriously, I wanted to see Mace hold the blade to Palpatine's throat and bellow, "What's my name?!?"

And in the movie, Anakin was not punished for killing Dooku. Interesting to note.

Yeah, but if I remember correctly, the only people who know exactly how and under what circumstances he killed Dooku are Anakin and Palpatine. Nobody else witnessed it, right? So as far as the rest of the Jedi know (including Obi-Wan), Dooku was killed fair-and-square in an honorable lightsabre battle, rather than being beheaded while already utterly helpless, and under goading from Palpatine.

 

Being legal does not necessarily make something right.

Exactly.

 

Sith were the Jedi's sworn enemy. Mace knew that Palpatine was not unarmed and knew he had to kill him. It doesnt have to be legal: the Jedi are loyal to their order before the Republic laws.

 

Sith were the Jedi's sworn enemy. Mace knew that Palpatine was not unarmed and knew he had to kill him. It doesnt have to be legal: the Jedi are loyal to their order before the Republic laws.

Lets say they did end up killing Palps, how will they explain it to the senate?? Im sure the Senators, at least many of the senators who voted for Palps, the majority obviously, would want the Jedi to be arrested, and at worst a possible Civil War.

Even the Jedi knew that if they took over its not going to go well with the republic, you cant just take out an elected leader. Sidious really screwed the Jedi and the republic

 

This thread is now starting to remind me of the deliemma from The Dead Zone. Remember that one?

 

palps was not un armed, he was and would always be extremely dangerous as he can shoot lighting from his hands! also if he was not killed there he would have got off with any charge and killed again. leagal in the jedi way and probably legal in every other way as palps was responsible for the clone wars which killed a lot of people... worth a death sentance.

 

palps was not un armed, he was and would always be extremely dangerous as he can shoot lighting from his hands! also if he was not killed there he would have got off with any charge and killed again. leagal in the jedi way and probably legal in every other way as palps was responsible for the clone wars which killed a lot of people... worth a death sentance.

and the dilemma is, no one but the Jedi knew all of this. The republic probably doesnt know what a Sith is, nor that Sith Lord started the clone wars, they have no proof of anything. The Jedi wanted to kill Palpatine without proving it to the Senate. Id like to see how the Jedi would prove he was a Sith lord and how he started the war when hes dead.

Thats the legal system for ya, even though you try to do something right it could be seen as wrong by someone else

 

fair point and well presented. still say he was acting legally but like u add it would have been difficult explaining his actions to the senate.

 

It just goes to show how screwed the Jedi were either way.