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mace windu is the jedi traitor. proof here!

Discussion in 'Attack of the Clones' started by the_homeless_jedi, Jun 15, 2002.

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  1. Mr_Sith

    Mr_Sith Jedi Knight star 5

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    Its a 2-way street here. Everyone is allowed to have their own crackpot theories if they want to. If you can't make simple honest discussion about it....don't post.

    The Thread Title is Called "mace windu is the jedi traitor. proof here!"

    There is no proof. We are making a simple Honest Discussion about it. While it is still possible he is a Traitor, we've shown more proof that he isn't than you have that he is.

    Bad Guys do not go out in a Blaze of Glory.
     
  2. THE_DOODE

    THE_DOODE Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Mace is not bad


    He has done nothing that isn't noble or his own opinion .......


    He saved Obiwan,Anakin and Padme from death and kill Jango.


    He will go out a hero and a badass
     
  3. Mr_Sith

    Mr_Sith Jedi Knight star 5

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    Exactly
     
  4. Devilanse

    Devilanse Jedi Knight star 5

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    ....unless the script calls for him to betray the Jedi. Then he will die a deceitful badass.
     
  5. __UnDeRsCoRe__

    __UnDeRsCoRe__ Jedi Youngling

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    doesn't seem so farfetched to me, although it is circumstancial evidence and not proof beyond a reasonable doubt. in other words, more likely than not.
    if this is the case, i'm sure mace thinks he's working for the good of the republic and the jedi order and not simply power hungry or vying for a sith apprenticeship.

    and what's with that look windu gives jango after he decapitates him? it looks like a double-take, like "wow, his head sure came off easily."
     
  6. jedi_master_ousley

    jedi_master_ousley Manager Emeritus star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I think it was because he had to take the life of such a powerful man, and he's a Jedi, and therefore does not enjoy killing.
     
  7. homeless_jedi

    homeless_jedi Jedi Youngling star 4

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    by popular demand! bump! :)
     
  8. DarthSapient

    DarthSapient Jedi Youngling star 10

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    Demand? This hasn't been posted in since July.
     
  9. EMPEROR_WINDU

    EMPEROR_WINDU Jedi Master star 5

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    ^^^thats because there is nothing to discuss
     
  10. TitaniumBender

    TitaniumBender Jedi Youngling star 1

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    That's because the original theory is umm...well, words can't describe it.

    :( <-----only this smily can describe it.
     
  11. DarthSapient

    DarthSapient Jedi Youngling star 10

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    Incorrect? Is that the word you're looking for?
     
  12. jedi_master_ousley

    jedi_master_ousley Manager Emeritus star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I agree with Sapient. Really people, there's nothing to discuss. Mace isn't a traitor, end of story.
     
  13. NeoBaggins

    NeoBaggins Jedi Master star 5

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    You also forgot that it was Mace who spoke on Dookus behalf so strongly. He must be a badguy or Padme is more clairvoyant than any Jedi. Why does she know Dookus a villan but the rest of the Council, who have delt with him on a personal level, do not?

    Anyway. If he did turn out to be a badguy I would hangup my saber and deem Lucas finished as a writer. And dont worry yourselves about SyfocameronDias. In the PTs new style of vagueness, we will hear nothing else of this person.
     
  14. homeless_jedi

    homeless_jedi Jedi Youngling star 4

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    MACES THE BAD GUY TRUST ME..



    even dooku tells him to his face.."worth recognition in the jedi archives" he knows that he erased them..



    let me ask you this remember when mace says this..

    "we must tell the senate our ability to use the force has diminished"


    and then yoda says.."only a sith would know of our weakness"

    well who did just say the jedi had a weakness? mace..making him? a sith..

    its all common logic.
     
  15. DarthSapient

    DarthSapient Jedi Youngling star 10

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    Mace is no traitor. No way whatsoever. He was willing to die for the Jedi on Geonosis.
     
  16. Darth_Fless

    Darth_Fless Jedi Youngling star 1

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    There's something to this.
    I sense something...a presence I've not felt since...

    I'll concede that the POSSIBILITY exists based on what we have seen in the movies and what Homeless points out, but in my heart Mace will not be a traitor. I pray I am not wrong.
     
  17. jedi_master_ousley

    jedi_master_ousley Manager Emeritus star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    even dooku tells him to his face.."worth recognition in the jedi archives" he knows that he erased them..

    No, it was because Dooku erased them, probably. Dooku said it as a slap in the face because Dooku knows about them being erased (probably having done it himself).

    "we must tell the senate our ability to use the force has diminished"

    and then yoda says.."only a sith would know of our weakness"

    well who did just say the jedi had a weakness? mace..making him? a sith..


    The Jedi should know of their own weakness.
     
  18. Jabba-wocky

    Jabba-wocky Chosen One star 9

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    Indeed, Ousley's right Homeless. That's the same foolishness you paraded about this summer.

     
  19. DarthSapient

    DarthSapient Jedi Youngling star 10

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    Please don't refer to someone else's ideas or posts as foolishness. Thanks.
     
  20. EMPEROR_WINDU

    EMPEROR_WINDU Jedi Master star 5

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    well its certainly bordering on ridiculous
     
  21. Jabba-wocky

    Jabba-wocky Chosen One star 9

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    My apologies. It's just that half a year later he hasn't even bothered to modify his proof in the slightest to address our criticisms. And it's usually not considered productive to simply repost old things if there's nothign new to add.

    That said, it won't happen again.
     
  22. alpha_red

    alpha_red Jedi Youngling star 5

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    Mods...PLEASE. I'm begging you. For the love of God, close this horse crap and let people with half a brain cell continue to discuss this film intelligently.
     
  23. NeoBaggins

    NeoBaggins Jedi Master star 5

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    You ask for much, young one.

    I doubt Mace is a badguy for one reason. His hold over Lucas. Sam is happy to be in the films and part of his joy is that not only is he a good guy, but he is head of the Jedi council. He would be disapointed im sure if Lucas came at him sideways like that, asking him to be betrayed as Jedi traitor. He would have to punk Lucas out again like when he asked Lucas could he destroy every fans thoughts of a saber color code. Lucas would be ashamed of himself if he asked sam to play such a dishonorable role. Actor or not. And im going to avoid the reasons why but Im sure it would not sit well and wouldnt fit as useful in conveying the story of Vader.
     
  24. alpha_red

    alpha_red Jedi Youngling star 5

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    I turn 17 in a few days! Give me a birthday present, for God's sake!
     
  25. Jabba-wocky

    Jabba-wocky Chosen One star 9

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    NeoBaggins, don't you think you're being a bit harsh?

    "he asked Lucas could he destroy every fans thoughts of a saber color code."

    Really??? I thought he just asked for a distinctive color so he could spot himself during battle scenes in the movie.

    The rest of your post is good, but it has an awfully conspiratorial bent to it. As if the best thing Smauel L. Jackson has to do with his time and career is to go out of his way ruining Star Wars for you. Come on now. . .
     
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