MAJOR SPOILERS From IESB.com

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  1. Gobi-1 Manager Emeritus

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    From IESB.com

    Indiana Jones IV Villain Revealed!
    Written by Robert Sanchez
    Thursday, 24 May 2007
    With all the Indiana Jones news flying around we were feeling a little left out so we decided to share some news that has come across our desk.

    Spoiler Warning!

    First, let?s confirm some details that Crud.com and other sites have posted.
    Contacting various sources from different levels of access to this film we can confirm most of the recent news that has hit the web.

    The news that Karen Allen would be back as Marion Ravenwood is accurate and truth be told, a few online sites had been sitting on this information for close to a month, no real shocker.

    Shia Lebeouf is a teenage motorcycle riding greaser, true.

    Shia LeBeouf is the son of Marion Ravenwood and Indiana Jones, true.

    Indy doesn?t find out about being a daddy until after he and Shia have been teamed up for a while and during a pivotal scene, true.


    Movie takes place in the 50?s, true.

    We will see Area 51 and Russian Agents, true.

    South American Pyramids/Temples, true.

    Crystal Skulls, true (13 skulls to be exact)


    The current script is a hybrid of scripts including Frank Darabont?s version, true.

    The title of the film is Indiana Jones and the City of the Gods, maybe, it sure is the working title but we have been told the real title may involve something about the 13 crystal skulls.

    One major question remains, who?s the villain? Let?s take a look at the villains from the past Indiana Jones films before we blow our load. Spoilers Ahead!

    Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark we had Dr. Rene Belloq and those pesky Nazis.

    Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom we had Mola Ram and his followers.

    Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade we had Walter Donovan and, again, Nazis.

    So who will be a villain in Indy IV? Well kiddies, while most people have been assuming that Cate Blanchett will be Indy?s love interest since the announcement of her addition to the cast, several of our sources have revealed that she will actually be the villain in cahoots with the Ruskies.
    Can these details change? We have been told that all major story beats have been locked and only minor changes can be made at this time.

    I would stay close to the web during the next upcoming week as I have a feeling that more of Indy?s secrets will be revealed.

    No time for love for Dr. Jones this time around! Well at least not with Cate Blanchett.

    Stay tuned to the IESB as we bring you the latest news.


    Lots of interesting stuff now we'll just have to wait and see if this all pans out.
  2. Darthsuggs Jedi Master

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    I always figured she would be a villain. Can't wait to see her in that Soviet uniform.
  3. DarthLowBudget Jedi Master

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    Sweet news. I can't wait for this movie!
  4. KYP_DURRON85 Jedi Master

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    Sweet sweet news! I'm really excited now.
  5. ObiWanCon Jedi Master

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  6. Lavaman Jedi Padawan

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    Don't forget, Dr. Jones had some time for love with a certain blonde Nazi, so I wouldn't rule out Dr. Jones getting some love from Cate Blanchett's Soviet vixen Character.;)
  7. Zaz Jedi Knight

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    I dunno...Angelina Jolie might be a better villain...just saying.
  8. Gobi-1 Manager Emeritus

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    I only want fictional skanks in an Indy movie.
  9. bluesaber70 Jedi Knight

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    This is my other favorite movie series. I really can't wait for Indy. But, I think I'll go spoiler free for the most part.
  10. Jango10 Jedi Master

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  11. Palpateen Jedi Padawan

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    if I was lucas or spielberg, i'd want to kill the people at iesb.com
  12. Gobi-1 Manager Emeritus

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    The sci-fi angle is very appropriate for Indy 4. Films of the 1950s tapped into Cold War paranoia presenting alien invasion films as allegories of the Red Scare that spread across America. By setting Indy 4 in this time period Lucas and Speilberg can tap into this mind set.

    Indy in the 1930s = B-Grade Saturday matinee serials
    Indy in the 1950s = B-Grade Sci-fi invasion movies

    Lucas and Speilberg are paying homage to their childhood. I for one am very excited.
  13. Kol_Skywalker Jedi Padawan

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    However, what does Sci-Fi have to do with Archaeology????
  14. Gobi-1 Manager Emeritus

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    Well there is a line of thought that aliens actually built the pyramids or other ancient structures. A storyline that delt with those ideas and a 1950s setting would allow Lucas and Spielberg to weave many of there favorite things together into an Indy adventure.
  15. Insidious_One Jedi Knight

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    *cough* Stargate *cough* :cool:

    Nonetheless I really like the sound of the spoilers thus far :)
  16. DarthLowBudget Jedi Master

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    Yeah, by all indications, this movie is looking to be pretty epic.
  17. StarDude Jedi Knight

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    From what we know, I think Indy IV will be the best since Raiders:

    1. It's a character piece. From what I understand, this route was first taken with Shyamalan's draft which he claims was very philosophical and more of a drama that asked "what makes a hero?" I find that interesting.

    2. The screenplay is a combination of all the best elements of the other screenplays. Boam, Shyamalan, and Darabont all wrote drafts. The Raiders series, espescially the first one, is a prime example of great minds working together to make incredible movies.

    3. It's incredibly new territory for Indiana Jones. I think it's great that it'll deal with the theory that ancient gods were actually extra-terrestrials, which explains some of the advanced technologies old civilizations were able to utilize ... not to mention monuments like the pyramids, the stone henge, etc. After reading about Indy IV, I decided to pick up a copy of "Chariots of Fire." The more I read of this book (from which this concept is supposedly based on), the more promising Indy sounds.




    Also, isn't it funny how everyone thought that Shia Leboeuf would play an annoying, comic relief kid sidekick, but he's actually playing a biker?

  18. jp-30 Manager Emeritus

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    http://www.daniken.com/e/

    [image=http://www.daniken.com/pics/evdcdrom/B067.JPG]

    Fun to read some ov Von Daniken's theories. He had me convinced when I was 11. Now, uhh... less so. ;)
  19. Lavaman Jedi Padawan

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    Well said; I totally agree!
  20. Lavaman Jedi Padawan

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    Indiana Jones is fiction, so it can involve Sci-Fi.;)

    Besides, there is no law that says Archeology can't involve Extra-terestrial connections.[face_plain]
  21. bluesaber70 Jedi Knight

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    I've had a change of heart. I think it will be to hard for me to go spoiler free. So I'm not going to.

    It's going to be GREAT to see Indy back on the big screen!
  22. bluesaber70 Jedi Knight

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    Plot Summary: Steven Spielberg says that the film will feature all of Jones' former babes in various cameo roles. Karen Allen is expected to be back for one soundbite, and other Indy girls who had smaller roles will be coming back. It is still up in the air whether or not Kate Capshaw, Spielberg's wife, will make an appearance. Sean Connery as Indy's father will be back for a few scenes, and the film is set in the early '50s.



    http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=4665
  23. Gobi-1 Manager Emeritus

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    Sean Connery is officially out. I wouldn't put too much faith in that summary. Many things have changed since then.
  24. Darthsuggs Jedi Master

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    Agreed.
  25. Darth_Sidious- Jedi Youngling

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    Area 51. This should be interesting, very interesting. I wonder if they will actually show the aliens.
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