main
side
curve
  1. In Memory of LAJ_FETT: Please share your remembrances and condolences HERE

Major Star Destroyers help needed

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Knight1192, Dec 9, 2001.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Knight1192

    Knight1192 Jedi Knight star 6

    Registered:
    Feb 5, 2000
    Ok, I'm working on a comparison between Star Destroyers and the ships that I see as their real world counterpart. This was actually started to be a thread here, but has since matured into something for my website. Well, matured as an infant matures from being a newborn to being able to toddle about.

    But for me to do a fuller comparison, I need more Star Destroyer data. Particulary the differences between Star Destroyers. I'm looking for things like size (in terms of length), crew compliment, powerplant, weapons compliment, speed (cruising speed will sufice unless max speed can be given), and range (how long a ship can go before it must be resupplied). What are the differences between an ImpStar and an ImpStar Deuce? Things like that are what I'm after.

    I know this stuff exsists out there. A lot of it would be mentioned in the RPGs and the computer game strategy guides. And there's bound to be some mention of differences between the various Star Destroyer classes in the novels as well. So this seems to be the right forum to ask in.

    All I'm asking is for you to give what you know on Star Destroyers. Victory, Imperial, Super, Eclipse, ect. Your help is greatly appreciated.
     
  2. AdmiralZaarin

    AdmiralZaarin Jedi Knight star 5

    Registered:
    Jul 8, 2001
    VSD
    DESIGNER/MANUFACTURER: Walex Blissex/Rendili StarDrive
    COMBAT DESIGNATION: Heavy Destroyer
    LENGTH: 900 meters
    CREW: 4798; 402 gunners
    PASSENGERS: 2,040 troops
    SPEED RATING: 40 MGLT Space/800 kph Atmosphere
    HYPERDRIVE: x1
    HULL RATING: ? RU
    SHIELD RATING: ? SBD
    CONSUMABLES: 4 years
    WEAPONS: 10 Taim & Bak Quad Turbolaser Batteries;
    40 Taim & Bak Double Turbolaser Batteries;
    80 Krupx Concussion Missile Tubes;
    10 Phylon Tractor Beam Projectors

    STARFIGHTER SQUADRONS: 2 TIE Fighter Squadrons
    PLANETARY ASSAULT TROOPS: 10 AT-AT walkers;
    15 AT-ST walkers; 10 Juggernauts; 5 Floating Fortresses
    OTHER ONBOARD CRAFT: 4 Lambda-Class Imperial Shuttles
    RPG STATISTICS:
    Capital, astrogation 3D+2, capital ship gunnery 4D+2,
    capital ship piloting 5D, capital ship shields 4D,
    sensors 3D+2, maneuverability 1D, space 4, atmosphere 280;
    800 kmh, hull 4D, shields 3D+1. Weapons: 10 quad turbolaser
    batteries (fire control 4D, space range 3-15/35/75,
    atmosphere range 6-30/70/150 km, damage 2D+2), 80
    concussion missile launchers (fire control 2D, space range
    2-12/30/60, atmosphere range 4-24/60/120 km, damage 9D),
    10 tractor beam projectors (fire control 4D, space range
    1-5/15/30, atmosphere range 2-10/30/60 km, damage 5D).


    VSDII
    DESIGNER/MANUFACTURER: Rendili StarDrive
    COMBAT DESIGNATION: Heavy Destroyer
    LENGTH: 900 meters
    CREW: 5,881 crew; 226 gunners
    SPEED RATING: 60 MGLT
    HYPERDRIVE: x1
    HULL RATING: ? RU
    SHIELD RATING: ? SBD
    CONSUMABLES: 4 years
    WEAPONS: 20 Taim & Bak Turbolaser Batteries;
    20 Taim & Bak Double Turbolaser Batteries;
    10 Borstel Ion Cannon Batteries;
    10 Phylon Tractor Beam Projectors


    STARFIGHTER SQUADRONS: 2 TIE Fighter Squadrons

    PLANETARY ASSAULT TROOPS: 10 AT-AT walkers;
    15 AT-ST walkers; 10 Juggernauts; 5 Mobile Command Bases
    OTHER ONBOARD CRAFT: 5 Lambda-Class Imperial Shuttles
    RPG STATISTICS:
    Capital, astrogation 3D+2, capital ship gunnery 4D+2,
    capital ship piloting 5D, capital ship shields 4D, sensors
    3D+2, maneuverability 1D, space 6, hull 4D+2, shields
    3D. Weapons: 20 turbolaser batteries (fire control 1D, space
    range 3-15/35/75, atmosphere range 6-30/70/150 km, damage
    7D), 20 double turbolaser cannons (fire control 2D, space
    range 3-15/35/75, atmosphere range 6-30/70/150 km, damage
    5D), 10 ion cannons (fire control 4D, space range 1-10/25/50,
    2-20/50/100 km, damage 4D), 10 tractor beam projectors (fire
    control 2D, space range 1-5/15/30, atmosphere range
    2-10/30/60 km, damage 6D).


    ISD
    DESIGNER/MANUFACTURER: Lira Wessex/Kuat Drive Yards
    COMBAT DESIGNATION: Battlecruiser
    LENGTH: 1,600 meters
    CREW: 36,810; 275 gunners
    PASSENGERS: 9,700 troops
    SPEED RATING: 60 MGLT
    HYPERDRIVE: x2
    HULL RATING: 2272 RU
    SHIELD RATING: 4800 SBD
    CONSUMABLES: 6 years
    WEAPONS: 60 Taim & Bak Heavy Turbolaser Batteries;
    60 Borstel Ion Cannon Batteries;
    10 Phylon Tractor Beam Projectors

    STARFIGHTER SQUADRONS: Standard compliment of 3 TIE Fighter Squadrons;
    2 TIE Interceptor Squadrons; 1 TIE Bomber Squadron
    (for other TIE compliments,see below)

    PLANETARY ASSAULT TROOPS: Full Standard Stormtrooper
    Division; 12 Landing Barges; 20 AT-AT walkers; 30 AT-ST
    walkers; 1 Pre-fabricated Garrison base
    OTHER ONBOARD CRAFT: 8 Lambda-Class Imperial Shuttles;
    10 Assault Shuttles; 5 Assault Gunboats
    RPG STATISTICS:
    Capital, astrogation 4D, capital ship gunnery 4D+2,
    capital ship piloting 5D+1, capital ship shields 4D+1,
    sensors 4D, maneuverability 1D, space 6, hull 7D,
    shields 3D. Weapons: 60 turbolaser batteries (fire
    control 4D, space range 3-15/36/75, atmosphere range
    6-30/72/150 km, damage 5D), 60 ion cannons (fire control
    2D+2, space range 1-10/25/50, atmosphere range 2-20/50/100
    km, damage 3D), 10 tractor beam projectors (fire control
    4D, space range 1-5/15/30, atmosphere range 2-10/30/60 km,
    damage 6D).


    ISDII
    DESIGNER/MANUFACTURER: Kuat Drive Yards
    COMBAT DESIGNATION: Battlecruiser
    LENGTH: 1,600 meters
    CREW: 36,755
     
  3. Wylding

    Wylding Jedi Grand Master star 5

    Registered:
    Aug 13, 2000
    [image=http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid27/pa806202da9b4a3740a11a59ffe64350d/fe1a3982.jpg.orig.jpg]



    I hope this helps as well. Sometimes it's good to see what goes along with a description
     
  4. PrinceXizor

    PrinceXizor Former TF.N Foreign Book Cover Staff star 5 VIP

    Registered:
    Jul 4, 2001
    The Executor should have the same size as the other Super-Class Star Destroyer. In fact, saying that the Executor was bigger than others SSD is ridiculous. The Lusankya was a TWIN of the Executor, and all later models of SSD had the same size. (See AZ's RPG stats)
     
  5. FTeik

    FTeik Jedi Grand Master star 5

    Registered:
    Nov 7, 2000
    For more information you should visit the TechnicalCommentries at http://www.theforce.net/swtc and look for "Warships of the empire"
    "Superstardestroyers" and "Imperial Stardestroyers". Wonder what you think about the differences in discription and the reason for them.

    Also a good site is the galacticempiredatabank at http://galacticempiredatabank.com . If they cited their sources correctly, you should have no problems.
     
  6. Knight1192

    Knight1192 Jedi Knight star 6

    Registered:
    Feb 5, 2000
    Right now I'm just trying to gather as much data as possible. I find it easier to get data on battleships, particulary US battleships. But Star Destroyers tends to be a little more difficult, especially when you run into fan RPG pages where they come up with their own statistics for SDs and SSDs that they can't find in any of the RPG material they may have. To do a decent comparison, I need to get as much data as possible.

    Oh, I will give folks credit for helping me on this. I mean, it would be one thing if I did all the research on my own. But I'm asking you folks to help me out. Any help I can get from you means, to me at any rate, that I really should give you credit for all you're help.
     
  7. AdmiralZaarin

    AdmiralZaarin Jedi Knight star 5

    Registered:
    Jul 8, 2001
    Don't go to the Tech Comms. They have the dillusional idea that scaled measurements are priority over what LFL says.
     
  8. Matthew Trias

    Matthew Trias Force Ghost star 6

    Registered:
    Sep 8, 1999
    Well,if we go by official material,the Executor started out as an 8000 meter Super Class Star Destroyer.Somewhere along the line,it MUST'VE had major reconstruction work done on it.It was turned into a 12,800 meter long Executor Class Star Destroyer. ;)

    I know of no stats for that kind of ship ship,but but I do know that there are stats for the various other destroyers shown in the movies and EU.

    In fact,Zaarin posted most of em. :)

    Btw ,there weren't many Super Class SDs,Executor Class SDs,Eclipse Class SSDs and sovereign Class SSDs.

    Only 15 Super Class SDs were ever created.AS far as we know,there were only two Executor Class SDsThe Emperor did plan to have these ships gradualy replace the Imperial Class Star Destroyer but until there was a sufficient amount,they were to serve as command ships.They never really participated in battle.Instead a commander would direct a fleet from the safety of these massive ships.

    It was the same with the Eclipse Class Super Star Destroyers and the Sovereign Class SSDs.

    Only two Eclipse class SSDs were ever produced;the Eclipse and the Eclipse II.Both ships had axial mini super lasers.The weapons were powerful enough to crack the crust of a planet.

    Four Sovereign class SSDs were under construction in orbit around Byss.They were destroyed before they were completed.
     
  9. LanceJade

    LanceJade Jedi Padawan star 4

    Registered:
    Mar 26, 2001
    Where did the Executor Class SSD come from? Is there an official source on this? The Lusankia (spelling... i know) was its sister ship. How can the Executor by that big?!?
     
  10. MysteryWhiteBoy8

    MysteryWhiteBoy8 Jedi Youngling star 2

    Registered:
    Sep 4, 2001
    Oh no, not this discussion again. . . . .
     
  11. Matthew Trias

    Matthew Trias Force Ghost star 6

    Registered:
    Sep 8, 1999
    The Executor Class was in the movies and the BFC.

    If we only we go by official material,then she must've started out as a 8000 meter Super Class Star Destroyer.She must've had major reconstructive work done on her sometime between ANH and ESB and was turned into a completely new kind of ship,a 12,800 meter long Executor class vessel(the new length comes from the OS,yet all other sources use the 8,000 meter length)

    Anyhoo,the Lusankya may have started outr as Executor's sister ship,but since she was buried under the surface of Coruscant she wouldn't have had the same reconstruction...so no.Probaly wasn't the same size ,though they were at one time.

    Confusing,eh?
     
  12. Knight1192

    Knight1192 Jedi Knight star 6

    Registered:
    Feb 5, 2000
    You're right, MysteryWhiteBoy8, it's not the Star Destoryer discussion again, although folks will discuss. This is the "I need help concerning Star Destoryers for something I'm working on for my website" thread. Both my ealier post show that's why I set this one up.
     
  13. PrinceXizor

    PrinceXizor Former TF.N Foreign Book Cover Staff star 5 VIP

    Registered:
    Jul 4, 2001
    Okay. I agree with Matt's info.

    SW.com database is the true source, after all. So the Executor is indeed 12800, which is still smaller than the Eclipse (unlike what is drawn on the chart posted before).

    Now, did it start at 12800, or did it went to that extension process you talk about (starting at 8000)? Well, since there's no official info on this, I'll say the latter is correct. Quite a decent fix, IMO.
     
  14. Bravo

    Bravo Force Ghost star 6

    Registered:
    Sep 10, 2001
    Vist: www.galacticempiredatabank.com
     
  15. LanceJade

    LanceJade Jedi Padawan star 4

    Registered:
    Mar 26, 2001
    I didnt know they had changed the length... oops.
     
  16. FTeik

    FTeik Jedi Grand Master star 5

    Registered:
    Nov 7, 2000
    The DarkEmpireSourcebook-Chart posted by AdmiralZaarin on the Superstardestroyer-threat calls the eight kilometer long vessel an Executor-Class, too.

    Funny, don´t you think?
     
  17. Matthew Trias

    Matthew Trias Force Ghost star 6

    Registered:
    Sep 8, 1999
    "Okay. I agree with Matt's info.

    SW.com database is the true source, after all. So the Executor is indeed 12800, which is still smaller than the Eclipse (unlike what is drawn on the chart posted before). "

    It had to have been extended sometime between Episode IV and ESB.It did start out as an 8000 meter Super Class Star Destroyer according to most sources,even the new ones.

    This has happened in real life.A cruiser in WWII was turned into a completely new kind of ship.They converted into an air-craft carrier.
     
  18. PrinceXizor

    PrinceXizor Former TF.N Foreign Book Cover Staff star 5 VIP

    Registered:
    Jul 4, 2001
    Yes, it's totally conceivable.

    But I just wondered where you got this 'Executor-class' thing. I still only remember only 'Super-class' from every official source I read (and I'm not saying I read everything or that memory is infallible).
     
  19. Valiento

    Valiento Jedi Knight star 7

    Registered:
    Mar 19, 2000
    Read BFC, for the one place that executor-class is ever mentioned.
     
  20. farraday

    farraday Jedi Knight star 7

    Registered:
    Jan 27, 2000
    If I may say so for the cruiser in world war II that didn't add half again it's length to a pre-existing structure.

    That sort of construction is lmost as inconceivable as the sheer size of the objects involved.
     
  21. PrinceXizor

    PrinceXizor Former TF.N Foreign Book Cover Staff star 5 VIP

    Registered:
    Jul 4, 2001
    The Pride of Yevetha's said to be an Executor-class ???
     
  22. Valiento

    Valiento Jedi Knight star 7

    Registered:
    Mar 19, 2000
    Yes, it's called both an executor-class, and and a super-class in the same book.
     
  23. LanceJade

    LanceJade Jedi Padawan star 4

    Registered:
    Mar 26, 2001
    MAYBE (sense I havent read the book in a long time)

    Its the Executor - class in the Empire

    and its the Super class to the Rebels...
     
  24. Matthew Trias

    Matthew Trias Force Ghost star 6

    Registered:
    Sep 8, 1999
    "If I may say so for the cruiser in world war II that didn't add half again it's length to a pre-existing structure.

    That sort of construction is lmost as inconceivable as the sheer size of the objects involved."

    Not to an Empire wit the resources of a galaxy at it's fingtertips.
     
  25. LanceJade

    LanceJade Jedi Padawan star 4

    Registered:
    Mar 26, 2001
    Just a thought... but with the length of the Executor, can it hold an ImpStar??? And if so, can it go to hyper with it?
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.