Discussion in 'Prequel Trilogy' started by Jarren_Lee-Saber, Dec 10, 2014.
It was about why Jar Jar was the worst thing ever and how he ruined the movies.
Jar Jar is awesome!
That's what I said
Here's a new article from Far Far Away Radio.
The Resolute: Why are we Apologizing for the Prequels?
A lot of good points.
Saw this on Twitter:
Nice find on both counts, Jedi Knight Fett. I especially like a point that the first link brings up about making Star Wars relevant again. One of the things I was thinking the other day was what would have happened had there been no prequels or no Special Editions released at all. Say, the very last time anyone saw anything Star Wars related was a standard video release of a series of movies that ended in 1983. Would there have been even a consideration of a Disney buyout and an Episode VII? I mean, Star Wars would have effectively been dead for over 30 years. The prequels did reinvigorate the series and bring it back to the forefront, despite what some folks may believe. No prequels, no Clone Wars cartoon, no Episode VII. The last Star Wars movie we would have seen would have been in 1983, of that I'm sure.
I honestly don't know where to put this. Hope right here is okay.
New Documentary Defending the Star Wars Prequel Trilogy Needs Your Help!
Note: I am not in any way affiliated with MSW or this documentary.
So true. I guy I know who despises the prequels with all his heart is maniacal on this point. He really believes that it's the worst acting performance in the history of the movies. I counter with it being one of the best of all time which frustrates him no end.
That is a bit of hyperbole on my part but I think it is an excellent performance and I really do think that HC has the hardest gig of any actor in the saga. Likely harder than anyone will have for a long, long time and he does knock it out of the park.
It's not what some people wanted but what the story of Anakin Skywalker needed. That is the kind of bold choices Lucas was constantly making.
Because reasoned arguments are by nature more polite than the counter which is like saying:
"YOU'RE AN IDIOT. IT'S OBVIOUS TO EVERYONE THEY SUCK!!"
Semi-pro but still bit misguided.
yep. it's like the 'i hate sand line' in ATOC. It's meant to be awkward !!
I think it was more of a character study. He comes from this harsh, dry world while she comes from this beautiful planet.
Also if you notice, he's using it as an excuse to touch her.
So many articles start out with the prequels were bad but here is why they were sorta good.
With the Vanity Fair issue for the ST getting buzz, I figure I could post this article from The Prequel Appreciation Society about the prequel Vanity Fair covers.
I agree that it's not a very strong (or good) defense of Episode I (and she slams Episodes II and III several times) but it was nice to listen to something that at least didn't just quickly agree without thinking with the standard "the prequels all suck and don't exist" viewpoint.
I think everyone has a right to have and voice their views regardless of aspect of the films. I find it sad some seem to treat difference like it's an enemy to be annihilated.
Of course. And we´re not obliged to agree with them either.
This is my new favorite video!!
Also this: http://www.storyhobby.com/2015/05/07/how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-love-jar-jar-binks/
Saw this morning on Twitter, surprised no one posted it yet.
The Prequels Strike Back's Bradley Weathholt Talks his Documentary and the Star Wars Prequels
Talks about the Ring Theory, two different types of PT naysayers, Ministry of Cinema, etc, etc.
Nice to see a documentary in favor of the PT. Though the less said about the comments section the better.
It's interesting that the gentleman who was interviewed about the documentary who is also one of the 3 guys producing the film, saw the movie as a young kid. Eventually he started to buy into the popular mentality that the PT sucked. After reading about the ring theory, he has changed his opinion again. Though he is still not a staunch lover of the PT. So we are not getting 3 guys who are big time PT fans. Sounds like at least one of them thinks its only so so (but is open to the notion there is alot of great about it too), and this will not be about "why the PT is awesome and how the haters are wrong." While likely being a mainly positive documentary, sounds like it is going to leave open dialogue on both ends just to steer people away from the mob mentality that typically dominates online amongst bloggers and journalists, that they "suck" period, with no redeeming qualities.
Frankly, I would personally prefer a film that doesn't show or present any negative sentiment towards the PT at all, and have it be a 100% defense of the PT unapologetically. There are so many youtube videos and blogs out there already that act like there isn't a single redeeming value of the PT, that for once I would like to see a well done 100% defense.
Regardless, it will be interesting to see this and I am looking forward to it overall.
I actually think it's important that a documentary like that would be approaching the films from a less fanboyish perspective. If they started off the documentary saying "The Prequels are 100% perfect and we're going to go point by point telling you why you're wrong and we're right", then the movie would never get any traction at all outside of poeple who already like the prequels. if you're a prequel hater watching this, the best thing that can happen is for you to be eased in to the idea that just maybe, there's something good to be found in these movies. And once a hater can make that admission, they stop being just a hater and start being something a little more open minded, and the dialogue about the preqjels starts to become a lot healthier. I don't care if I live in a world where everybody loves the same things I love with 100% blind devotion; I want to live in a world where we can talk about things with curiousity and tolerance, an environment where bringing up something that another person doesn't like wont be met with automatic scorn.
Here's a guy on Reddit who posted his impressions of watching the films for the first time (in Chronological order!):
It's a cool read. In the end, he does say he liked the older films better overall, but he did genuinely enjoy the prequels and give them all good ratings (his review of ROTS is my favorite), and it's just a refreshing read because you can see him writing about these movies from a perspective that is totally free of all the "hater/fanboy" dogma and rhetoric that we've been stuck with for years.
So much THAT. ^ Especially the last points. That is my stance as well. I did 'bash' the PT a bit in the day but I *changed*. It *is* possible and difference is how I learn. However, *tone* has a lot to do with if traction is likely to be made. The fact that some PTers are just as antagonising if not more than some OTers doesn't help anything to progress.