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Mandalorians vs. Clones at New Holstice

Discussion in 'Literature' started by young_zev, Sep 19, 2005.

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  1. young_zev

    young_zev Jedi Youngling star 3

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    I just got the SW Clone Wars Vol. 6 "On the Fields of Battle" TPB and noticed something that escaped me the first time I read the issues...

    In the very beginning, we see Commander Bly and Aayla on New Holstice. He's saying to her "The Mandalorians are in full retreat. But unit strength is down sixty percent." (Roughly).

    My question to you is: Have we ever seen this battle between clones and Mando? Is The Battle of New Holstice portrayed in some other EU source? Can anyone tell me?

    (I know about New Bornelax and Kamino.)
     
  2. Commander5052

    Commander5052 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I think these Mandos are Alpha-02/Spar's crew.
    And the Commander is Bly, not Cody.
     
  3. young_zev

    young_zev Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Yes, but to my question: Has this battle been portrayed in the EU anywhere?
     
  4. DarthMane2

    DarthMane2 Force Ghost star 5

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    No. Nor do I think it was much of a battle either. The Mandalorian Article says that up-until Durges death the Mandalorians were doing squad based covert missions for the Confederarcy.

    So by that I guess it means that a squad of Mando's had a mission on New Holstice, got caught, and halled ass taking 40% of the Clones with them.
     
  5. Commander5052

    Commander5052 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I don't think so.
     
  6. young_zev

    young_zev Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Yowch! They took out 40% of Bly's troops??? And they were only a little squad of mercs?

    Sounds pretty awesome to ME! :)
     
  7. Thrawn McEwok

    Thrawn McEwok Co-Author: Essential Guide to Warfare star 6 VIP

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    Commander5052: And the Commander is Bly, not Cody.

    You can tell them apart? :p

    - The Imperial Ewok
     
  8. Commander5052

    Commander5052 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Well, Bly does have that scar...
    No, McEwok, I just read that ont he Unofficial Encyclopedia.
     
  9. young_zev

    young_zev Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Yo... hate tha game, not tha commanda.

    ;)
     
  10. DarthMane2

    DarthMane2 Force Ghost star 5

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    Not Mercs, but Protectors. All the Mandalorian Mercs that were left were working for the Republic in helping training the Clones.

    Spars Mandos were created because Spar wanted revenge against the Jedi, and as a force for the Protection of Mandalore and it's Government.

    EDIT: So in a matter of speaking the Mandalorian Protectors were controlled by the Mandalorian Government.
     
  11. young_zev

    young_zev Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Ah, right you are. I guess I meant mercs with a lower-case "m" because they are working for the CIS. Right?
     
  12. DarthMane2

    DarthMane2 Force Ghost star 5

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    They weren't working for the CIS. When Mandalore joined the Confeds, so did the Mandalorian Protectors.
     
  13. CeiranHarmony

    CeiranHarmony Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    maybe that was a mandalorian operation without CIS order, where their army was tested the first time? weeding out like Boba did with recruts and han in NJO
     
  14. DarthMane2

    DarthMane2 Force Ghost star 5

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    I don't know. Seems to me that it being a covert mission melds well with what the Article says. Plus the CIS was looking for the Medical Facilities, which Ventress was trying to get out of Obi-Wan when she captured him.

    Sending a squad of Mando's to check to see if Medical Facilities were indeed on New Holstice, or to destroy them would seem about right.
     
  15. Fist_of_Mandalore

    Fist_of_Mandalore Jedi Padawan star 4

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    This is all well and pretty but a squad of Mandalorians killing 40% of Bly and Aayla Slutcuras' forces? Even for my beloved Mando'ade(though, Jaster's Mercs will always be better than those pawns of the CIS, the "Protectors") this is far-fetched. Maybe several squads of Mandaliorians attacked, that I would believe. But a squad of 8-12 men(dont konw Protector squad-based organization. None of us do I presume.) taking out hundreds? Maybe with assistance of a few hundred of those BL-Droids or an orbital strike...
     
  16. Durnar

    Durnar Jedi Youngling star 3

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    40% sounds impressive, but 40% of 10,000 is a massively different number than 40% of 100...
     
  17. Fist_of_Mandalore

    Fist_of_Mandalore Jedi Padawan star 4

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    There were only 100 Clones at Hew Holstice? I wish I had this comic...
     
  18. Corran_Fett

    Corran_Fett Jedi Padawan star 4

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    No, there was Bly's whole Star Corps with about 3600 clones I 'spose...
     
  19. Fist_of_Mandalore

    Fist_of_Mandalore Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Then 40% of that could not have possibly been taken out by one squad of men. Not without help.
     
  20. Joser_Kyind

    Joser_Kyind Jedi Padawan star 4

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    OK, it could have been multiple sqads using unconvential tactics that the clones might not have been trained very well to counter.
     
  21. young_zev

    young_zev Jedi Youngling star 3

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    I got my Insider and Guide to the Grand Army this weekend. The 327th Star Corps is 36,864 troops. I can't imagine ALL of these were decimated.

    It also says that "the smaller regiments and battalions were sometimes led by clone commanders as well." And "When a Jedi needed a detachment of clone troopers?no matter how small?a clone commander usually accompanied him or her."

    So, putting that all together means... we have no idea how big Bly's detachment at New Holstice was. [face_laugh] :p
     
  22. Corran_Fett

    Corran_Fett Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I didn't guess so bad....

    just forgot one "0" :oops:
     
  23. Thrawn McEwok

    Thrawn McEwok Co-Author: Essential Guide to Warfare star 6 VIP

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    One word: tactical. nuclear. landmine.

    Well, okay, it's three words, but it makes an awfully big mess of the bad-guys LZ...

    "Vode an? No you're kriffing not." - Spar.

    - The Imperial Ewok
     
  24. Fist_of_Mandalore

    Fist_of_Mandalore Jedi Padawan star 4

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    A tactical nuclear landmine? Your theories make me larf Mickey.
     
  25. Thrawn McEwok

    Thrawn McEwok Co-Author: Essential Guide to Warfare star 6 VIP

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    FoM: A tactical nuclear landmine? Your theories make me larf Mickey.

    [face_laugh] Oh, dear... :p

    In case you're taking it seriously, it's an impressionistic phrase... the reality would be more like a "small" hypermatter bomb or something like that. A very big, carefully-shielded explosive device buried under wherever the clones are coming down or through...

    And don't call me Mickey? I just find I get... bored... being reminded of Bob and MCP more than is absolutely necessary...

    - The Imperial Ewok
     
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