Amph Mankind's Greatest Ongoing Adventure: Stargate SG-1 (and Origins) (Spoilers Allowed)

hypocritical puritanical BS!
There was nothing lude, anti-woman, or other actual reason to cut/trim/edit/alter that scene. Just parents who don't want to have to explain body hair to minors.

 

It may have been a showtime executive decision, but the way it was filmed turned the money-shot into a scene that showed just how fully invasive and humiliating the Goa'uld posession/invasion was. It made for a well-shot not-quite-subtle analogy between the taking of a host and rape. An invasion of mind and body. To remove that after the fact the way they did strips away the value of the whole scene. If they didn't like it, they should NEVER have included it. Period. And never leaked it either. And what's not family-friendly about body hair? If the kiddies need an explanation, just tell them it's part of the difference between children and adults or men and women, and leave it at that. Wow. Problem solved!

One of the things that greatly annoyed me about the Batman Beyond:Return of the Joker was the leaking of all the changes made by the censorship. Yes, it was better the original way, but the leaking just turned into the eventual marketing gimmic for releasing a special edition/original version.

 

"Family is just a dirty word for censorship!" --Honey (Cecil B Demented)
On the other hand, if they replaced the cheezy prosthetic with a CGI model more consistent with the later versions, that would be better for continuity.

 

I just thought that chick was on of Tealc's race incubating the gou ald cause the queens body died?

 

What about his nasal-labial folds? (The lines from the sides of the nose that run vertically to the sides of the lips) In the first season, those or really heavy and dark, making him much more menacing in an odd way. Just watched the season5ep2 rite of Mal-shor'an episode where it shows the flashbacks to the events of Tea'lc's life, and they are only there in the break-out scene.

 

I honestly liked the idea of going back and reediting COTG. I am not usually a fan of reedits due to the fact that people often take too many liberties with technology, and I am sure people can think of several examples.

It is obvious to me after watching the original cut, during my last run through SG-1, that it needed it. It is distinctly apart from the tone of the series due to being the pilot on Showtime, before Sci-fi picked it up. I think the TOS pilot "The Cage" is another good example of different tone from the series eventually being. Nimoy and Judge are very similar in that they were trying to define an alien character and eventually came into their own. I am sure if Nimoy had is way he would go back and redo "The Cage" too.


I personally have not seen the reedit, but I am looking forward to it, and when I collect all of SG-1 it will be apart of that collection. I like the use of the Alkesh and gliders, as well as Judge having the familiar Teal'c cadence. Seeing more of Chulak is a good idea since the planet figures so heavily in the rest of the series, and gives more background to Teal'c.

As far as editing out the nudity part, again it is all a part of creating the tone. The producers and director both talked about it that even though they did not have an issue with nudity, the tone of the show they wanted did not fit into having such a shot. Showtime wanted it in there for a more adult audience.
The producers wanted a more family type show and were able to do so on Sci-Fi. The evidence is pretty clear-ten seasons indicate the show found a good audience.

On a side note about the queen emerging from the pocket, Peter Deluis, a director/producer, still has the body cast double for the lady in his office. Kind of creepy looking, but it was such an interesting effect in the show. The Jaffa's reaction to the Goa'uld coming out is different than in the rest of the show.

Anyway, sorry for the long post.

 

Rewatched CotG a couple weeks ago. I remember thinking that it could benefit from some speeding up. But so could the original movie!
Does the new edit use new video footage of the gliders? most of season 1 seems to be cut shots from the movie spliced in (budget constraints).
Not sure I agree with removing the Kawolski infection from the end. without it, the menace of the Goa'uld that was running throughout the first season is diminished.

 

A couple of corrections to an earlier post of mine:

One of the latter seasons (7? 8?)Actually, it was in season 5 had the best explanation for why Earth kept defeating the Goa'uld when vastly inferior technology.
O'Niell points to a staff. "This is a weapon of Terror. It is made to /intimidate/ the enemy."
Grabs his the P90. "This is a weapon of War. It is made to /kill/ your enemies."

 

So, I've made it to 1/2 way through season 8. It's probablly not very original to say, but season 7 blew. There was maybe 1 or 2 good episodes, but most of it just stunk.
Season 8 is a major improvement, but not as good.
I remember 9 & 10 being OK.
This is a show that definately lasted longer than it should have. The end of season 6 was a perfect stopping point. Same with the end of season 3 of both Buffy and Highlander.

Sadly, the money people don't have the taste or sense to care.

 

Space Race so stupid....

 

Space Race is probablly the worst episode of all 3 shows. Just plain stupid.
Lifeboat is pretty weak too.
Birthright opens up one of the weaker jaffa threads
Grace is awful
Fallout was "The Core" revised for SGC (and actually better than that horrible movie).
Chimera openned up Carter's outside romance thread, which was also poorly executed
Death Knell... it's like they completely forgot the episode the season before when the ashrak was playing divide&conquer in the camp.
And Heroes... Painfully bad. Not as bad as Space Race, but almost.
Resurrection breaks one of my rules: it's been over 50 years (at that point) since the fall of the Third Reich Nazi government. Unless you are making a period drama, no more Nazis as villains. Just doesn't hold sway any more. Neo-Nazis, sure--but even they are pretty pathetic if you think about it.
And then we get Inauguration and Lost City drawing it all out.

From the rushed beginning of trying to hit Daniel Jackson's reset button and get rid of Jonas, nothing felt right about the season. In fact, I think Evolution was the only really good part of the season. Fragile Balance with Kid O'Niell was amusing and enjoyable as a comedy relief episode.

 

I see that one as "they had to do it sooner or later:better sooner so they can get it out of their systems and move on." I skip the Nox episode when watching season 1.

 

The Nox are superbadass! lol

Just for a note: I thought Showtime was just playing Children of the Gods the other day when I said it in this thread but they ve been playing the whole season out.

 

ScyFy is playing SG-1 right now everynight at 1am Central. I forget what season this is but it is starting with Ben Browder trying to get SG-1 back as a team, Beau Bridges as the Gen, Vala in guest form and not a member yet. So S8 or S9 I think?