ST Mark Hamill (Luke Skywalker) in the ST

I'm buying every Luke toy coming out!

 

forget it, you won't find a single one after I started my shopping tour.

 

buy me some!

 

you are so cruel.

 

Well thank goodness that show got the important questions out of the way.

Darphus_Mon some nice theories there about Jedi and their weapons. If Luke tried to teach the diplomatic nature of the Jedi (as you say passive) and that backfired, now he knows he has to fight again. The aging reluctant gunfighter who now has to fall back on the very skills he swore he'd never use again.

 

Aging reluctant gunslinger>Fisher King

 

true

 

He won't want to fight at all. He will refuse to leave with Rey and return to the fold. Though I have a strong feeling *someone* will appear to him and persuade him otherwise. Then he raises the X Wing from the depths.

 

Seems quite plausible to me.

 

Oh-ho-ho, that would be AWESOME to see...Luke is reluctant to come back, but does at the last minute (meaning the third act) and raises his X-wing from the ocean with a hint of Yoda's Theme playing interspersed with the Force Theme...goosebumps!

 

Didn't the Disney shareholders meeting have footage of a hobbled xwing entering a hangar?

If anyone who's seen that can vouch for one wing missing its laser cannon (that's what I see on the pinball machine) then we know who's driving.

 

Yes. I think that might be Luke in his crippled X-wing.

 

and maybe R2 rides in the back of the X-Wing, just like the old days!!!!!!

 

If so, what an entrance! XD

 

that would be perfect.

 

I just think - and I'm probably repeating myself - that the x-wing and the saber are two major symbols of where Luke is at when we meet him. One sunken, the other hidden, disused, broken or lost (I'm guessing). I'm guessing that by the end of 8 or 9 we will see Luke reclaim both, bringing down the house as he resolves his crisis of faith and rediscovers his mojo.

And if that's close to being right, those moments will be even more resonant because we were afraid Luke might never bounce back. Because he struggled.

 

Yeah, I think the submerged X-wing is being pushed in merchandise for a reason: it will rise out of the water as a symbol representing the return of Luke.

 

Yes, I wondered if it's something like that.

RJ said that certain points in the story are naturally ripe for rhyming. The sunken x-wing appears to be one of those. In ESB and TLJ we have a submerged X-wing keeping Luke on the planet, a hopeful seeking an exiled master. But the circumstances are now very different. It's not a rehash - it's the best of what George was getting at with the rhymes / a similar set up - a different outcome and context, giving us new meaning and drama. And I like the potential for charting where Luke is now. As a boy he refused to believe he could lift the ship. As a master, he knows he can, but won't. What could change his heart? What happened to challenge his faith like this? How amazing will John Williams mKe all this sound?

 

Rey will find the corpse of the real Luke in the X-Wing.

 

Incidentally, that's how you pull off a good callback: it echoes the scene in ESB but also has its own resonance in this film. Luke raises his X-wing, which he said was "impossible" 30 years earlier, showing how he is in a new phase. And then the additional layer is it signifies that Luke is now back in the game.

 

Yes. I thought the "it's true. All of it" is another great ST example of this.