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Maybe Plageius did create life, just not Anakin?

Discussion in 'Revenge of the Sith' started by Darth_Buddy_Lee, Jan 9, 2006.

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  1. darth-sinister

    darth-sinister Manager Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

    Jun 28, 2001
    Anakin was humble. He never knew what greed was as he was raised not to be greedy, by his mom. But what happened is that he was thrust with all kinds of respect and glory, for the heroic actions that he became known for. Palpatine was feeding and stroking his ego. Anakin's connection to the Force is unique, but he is only tainted because he is tainted by Palpatine.

    Where you come from isn't as important as where you are going. This is an important truth in life. Not everyone becomes like their parents.
  2. Cryogenic

    Cryogenic Force Ghost star 5

    Jul 20, 2005
    I think that Plagueis is just a fanciful Sith construct - the ultimate that all Sith can aspire to, but perversely, a signifier of where all Sith end up (i.e. dead: killed at the hands of their apprentice). Plagueis, or a Sith Lord like him, may once have trained Palpatine - and then Palpatine took his place. Palpatine was then Plagueis. Anakin, lusting for powers of life and death, eventually joined "Plagueis" and became his apprentice. But, once he'd grown weary of Plagueis and had been "taught" everything he knew, he also rose up and killed his master. But there was a crucial difference this time: the new "Plagueis" was a plague no longer, and in killing his former master, he had willfully sacrificed himself to save his son and restore peace and justice to the galaxy.

    It might pay to look at Palpatine's tale in the above manner. Think about it. If, as Palpatine arrogantly spins it, "the Jedi and the Sith are similiar in almost every way", might they BOTH have an incredible prophecy born of the Force - a prophecy that both of them embellished to suit their outlooks and philosophies?

    For the Jedi, their personal hero was "the Chosen One"; for the Sith, it was "Darth Plagueis" who was literally the master and apprentice rolled into one. As Lucas has said, myths and legends are fashioned by cultures to encapsulate and enshrine their most cherished values, and to provide the means of passing those values on to future generations. From the Jedi point of view, all members should aspire to be "the Chosen One" - to live harmoniously with the Force in a balanced way and to confront anything and everything unbalancing it. From the Sith point of view, all members should aspire to the highest echelons of power; apprentices should try and overthrow masters and masters should try and subdue apprentices. The tale of Darth Plagueis speaks of an eternal power struggle at the heart of the Sith way of life. Palpatine thinks he has mastered the fundamental cycle of a Sith: he perverts the old code by getting Maul and Dooku killed before they can overthrow him. Once he's drawn Anakin in, he feels that Vader is a broken and battered a man - mentally and physically - and much too fragile to pose a serious threat. How wrong Palpatine is. It's rather fitting that Palpatine tells the legend of Plagueis so smugly and eventually suffers the same fate as him; the master Sith that Palpatine thinks he has finally succeeded at being is the same master Sith that gets destroyed by his apprentice. Palpatine didn't break the cycle at all; Anakin did. And that's appropriate - for the cycle of killing is inherent to the Sith, and when Anakin breaks it, he rejects the Dark Side and vanquishes the Sith. Anakin not only fulfils the legend but dissolves it - just as he does for the prophecy of "the Chosen One". The old orders and the old tyrannies have been toppled. The folly of men has been forgiven, the old legends have died with the last of the people needing to learn their lessons and a full and spacious human life can begin anew.
  3. chopman

    chopman Jedi Youngling star 1

    Apr 17, 2005
    Plagious created Sidious who was extremely dark, and so the force created anakin who was extremely light to balance things out.
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