Senate Vaccinations/Anti-Vaxxers Discussion (formerly: Measles outbreak at Disneyland)

Should people who dropped their kid on their head be allowed an internet connection?

 

The only compulsory vaccination should be the anti Beezel one.


After that they should all be optional but come with the benefit of social pariah status if taken

 

Trouble began once animals began to be used as hosts. Enter Dr. Jonas Salk and the race to develop a commercially viable polio vaccine. Salk and his peers concocted from a mad scientist brew of ingredients including the minced up spinal cord from a 9-year-old deceased patient, water, blood, flies, feces, and human cell matter. This mixture was injected into the brains of monkeys, most of which died instantly or became paralyzed.

Undaunted, Salk plugged away eventually creating the commercial version of the polio vaccine, developed in part from "the feces of three healthy children in Cleveland.

http://www.naturalnews.com/033834_vaccines_ingredients.html#

 

Ok, the measles vaccine I can kinda understand but with polio anyone not getting it cause its made from feces needs to understand that they are dooming their kid to an iron lung.

 

Punk was around before Johnny Rotten, kid.

lol... The Sex Pistols were originally formed by Malcolm McLaren, a clothing designer, who owned a boutique called Sex. The members of the Sex Pistols were hired to model the clothing and promote the boutique. It was about as corporate and anti-punk as you can get.They were. pretty much, a boy band in punk costumes.

 

Monkey kidneys are bad for you? I had some for breakfast not a fortnight ago. Delicious with poached eggs.

 

So what else do we know that will kill us as told to us by the holinistic souls?

 

hey.

 

you vill not talk unless asked a qvestion.

 

NaturalNews: aka, the Left doing their best to outdo the Right in science denial.

 

Were their kids autistic?

 

I don't know if this helpful, but I believe that Disney is partially responsibke for the outbreak due to their rules on calling in sick. I worked for Disneyworld for a summer and calling in sick would get you into trouble. You would get a reprimand for calling sick for three or four times. You would still get reprimanded even if you had a doctor's note. You cannot miss work at Disney. I saw people come into work sick and I worked in food service.

 

On the heels of the measles outbreak at Disneyland, Melinda Gates of the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation took aim at the vaccine naysayers who make these types of disease outbreaks more likely.


"We take vaccines so for granted in the United States," Gates told the Huffington Post in a prerecorded interview published on Thursday. "Women in the developing world know the power of [vaccines]. They will walk 10 kilometers in the heat with their child and line up to get a vaccine, because they have seen death. [Americans have] forgotten what measles deaths look like."

She added, "I'd say to the people of the United States: we're incredibly lucky to have that technology and we ought to take full advantage of it."
In response to the Disneyland outbreak, pediatric infectious disease specialist James Cherry told the New York Times the outbreak was "100 percent connected" to the anti-vaccine movement. "It wouldn’t have happened otherwise — it wouldn't have gone anywhere," he said.

The key is what the scientific community calls herd or community immunity. If every American of age was vaccinated, measles wouldn't spread much further even if foreign travelers came into the country with the disease — as appears to be the case with measles. Vaccinated people essentially act as barriers to measles outbreaks, since the disease can't pass through them and infect other people. The awful truth of the anti-vaccine movement is that it puts the most vulnerable populations at risk: infants under 12 months of age, who can't get vaccinated and are more susceptible to infection, and the elderly, who have a higher risk of death if they contract these illnesses.

http://www.vox.com/2015/1/26/7907067/melinda-gates-measles-vaccines

Really, if you don't understand that bolded paragraph...yeah, you're an idiot. If you understand and are still anti-vaccine, please don't breed, because you're a reckless idiot. beezel gets it, ffs.

 

Sadly, this won't change anything. Everyone knows vaccines are good at stopping infections, and everyone knows the risks they are running when they don't get them. If she is to have any hope of convincing them, she needs to address the actual concerns people have regarding the safety of the vaccines.

 

the anti vacciners are so entrenched in their own world that I don't know if there is any way to reach them by addressing their concerns. It's like addressing the "concerns" of creationists about the validity of evolution.

 

Yeah... the "actual concerns people have regarding the safety of the vaccines" are not really "actual"... meaning there is zero scientific validity to them.

 

It shouldn't be too hard to demonstrate that non-vaccinated children have the same incidence of *insert some malady here* as vaccinated children and, predictably, have a higher incidence of measles, etc.

 

For anti-vacciners, there might be zero concern that they collectively caused a measles outbreak, because the risks of measles are completely outweighed by the health risks of being vaccinated.