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ST Michael Arndts script and the direction it would have went in.

Discussion in 'Sequel Trilogy' started by Sith-Mullet, Jan 12, 2014.

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  1. Sith-Mullet

    Sith-Mullet Jedi Master star 3

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  2. Ryus

    Ryus Jedi Master star 4

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    How cute! Han and Luke adopting kids together. :p

    The original title of the article was Luke and Leia's kids... the comment section exploded as a result about incest babies [face_laugh]
     
  3. Lee_

    Lee_ Force Ghost star 5

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    Well, there is precedent for that....
     
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  4. TheBBP

    TheBBP Force Ghost star 6

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    This is just a re-write of yesterday's news. Dang, my expectations for new tidbits instantly skyrocketed yesterday.
     
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  5. Six

    Six Jedi Knight star 4

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    This is why Michael Ardnt isn't involved any more.
     
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  6. Darth Punk

    Darth Punk JCC Manager star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    I watched half of Oblivion - can I have an opinion?
     
  7. Winged_Jedi

    Winged_Jedi Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    On the basis of their past work, I trust Arndt more than Abrams. On the basis of what little we've heard about their ideas for Episode VII, I still trust Arndt over Abrams.
     
  8. StoneRiver

    StoneRiver Force Ghost star 4

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    So Arndt was writing the script based on a GL penned story.... the way the story was supposed to be....

    But now we're basically getting an Abrams story.

    Oh dear
     
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  9. A Chorus of Disapproval

    A Chorus of Disapproval Head Admin & TV Screaming Service star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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  10. jedijax

    jedijax Force Ghost star 6

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    What was this I read that Lucas acquiesced to Abrams and KK?

    So Arndt wrote based on Lucas' story, Abrams changed it, and Lucas surrendered to Abrams re-write because he has no say?

    I hope we someday get to see Lucas' and Arndt's story in one form or another.
     
  11. Darth PJ

    Darth PJ Force Ghost star 6

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    I think it's possible that the heart of the story, the plot and situations, are still strongly based on Lucas' and Arndt's work - which gives me hope that the film may not be a total loss. However I think that making the 'big 3' the leads in Ep VII, and then relegating them to supporting roles in Ep VIII and IX, can only diminish the overall story. Either have the balls to make Luke, Leia and Solo the lead characters of the entire ST (which I don't have a problem with), or let the new characters be the driving force of the ST (which I also don't have a problem with). Sounds like Abrams wants to have his cake and eat it too... which is further testament to the mans inability to be truly creative and original in cinema.
     
  12. Gallandro

    Gallandro Force Ghost star 4

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    Love Abrams work, but this is spot on. Have some stones and make a choice... either stick with the Big 3 throughout or go with the new kids. This route only diminishes the role the new characters will play in the ST.

    Yancy
     
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  13. The Hellhammer

    The Hellhammer Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I would just suggest that everyone who thinks that script reworks are the portents of uncompromising doom take a look at Rinzler's The Making of Star Wars. It gives you very nice insight into all the rewrites that went into making ANH and how radically different it was in the end than what was the "original idea" - and in the end was better for it. Speculation is all nice and fine, but the reality of the situation is that we have absolutely nothing to base any concrete assumptions about what's going on behind the scenes. Script rewrites are a normal part of the creative process and in the end all that matters is the execution. What may not sound too great on a fan message board may work very well in the final product, and vice versa.
     
  14. Oissan

    Oissan Chosen One star 7

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    I wouldn't put too much value on what random news reports say. If you go back to the first rumours that popped up, the general theme was that Arndt and Abrams disagreed on the direction they wanted to go and Lucas ended up agreeing with Abrams. That is pretty much the opposite of what the current report says. It's kind of moot to speculate on something like that, because none of the people who report things like that were actually there. It's impossible for them to know whether Lucas agreed whole-heartily with Abrams or merely said do whatever you like. It's all hearsay around three corners that one person interpretes one way, and another one the complete opposite way.
     
  15. T-R-

    T-R- Chosen One star 5

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    =D= Exactly!!! Not just ANH but TESB and RotJ as well. All benifitted from the rewrites. Is TESB a better movie because it focussed more on Luke's training and confrontation with Vader than Han running across his step dad? Absolutely it is.

    The point is both were based on the same treatments/ideas and focused on completely different things.

    Same with what we have here. Both Arndt and JJ/Kasdan writing their scripts based on a GL penned story. They just chose to focus on different things to tell the story.

    I'll take JJ/Kasdan's version any day. Looks like KK agress. As does Lucas.

    Keep in mind that Jett Lucas said GL and JJ were in contact daily and there are pictures of GL, KK, and JJ in meetings, and I think it is clear that GL and JJ are on the same page.
     
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  16. I_Love_Scotch

    I_Love_Scotch Jedi Knight star 2

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    How many cocktails is GL getting fed daily? I agree to anything when I'm hammered.

    Well, not anything but you get my point hopefully.
     
  17. PrincessKenobi

    PrincessKenobi Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Yeah we already have a thread for this.
     
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