CT Midi-chlorians were first conceived by George Lucas as early as 1977?

So big news today: J. K. Rowling announced that what differentiates Muggles and Wizardfolk is actually a microscopic organism called wizochondria. There's actually a branch of the Ministry of Magic that collects blood samples from all newborns in the UK to check for levels of wizochondria.

She further explained that Harry's mother, in her sacrifice, transferred all the wizochondria in her body to Harry, and that Voldemort's curse was not powerful enough to deal with wizochondria levels above 20000. In fact, it caused a chemical reaction that deflected the curse (which is actually a magical virus that targets clusters of wizochondria, turning them against their hosts) back on Voldemort, thus destroying his body.

Despite criticism, Rowling insists this element has been present since the beginning, and cites personal notes she had just had printed off an officejet printer.

And hey man, I still feel the magic!

 

Thank God we finally know exactly how powerful Harry Potter was!

 

Hi, DarthCricketer!

And...even then , at the end of TPM, what does he do during that battle ?

Anakin: "OOPS!"

 

The concept of midichlorians isn't so bad, it's just that the movies took such a different path from all of that so it felt completely out of place. I think Star Wars very well could have been more of a Sci Fi story, but they decided that it was more fun to just go with the really fuzzy science of Death Stars and space dogfights instead...and it was for the best that they did.

It is frustrating to see George going back to retcon reality once again though. Is there a thread somewhere about that? Like an honest discussion about what George is really all about?

 

Sorted for E's and wizz...ochondria...

 

ROTJ's treatment of the situation says nothing about "personality type" at all ( nor was Anakin ever described as "noble" anywhere outside of Internet message boards, but that's another problem ). On the contrary, it is indicated that any offspring of Anakin would have been expected to have the high potential handed down to them, regardless of personality, simply by virtue of heredity.

 

Apart from exposition in S.W. or things like that. And as usual, your arguments are way too narrow, again; saying your family is strong in the force does not imply micro-organisms required in certain amounts to build up power-levels or anything like that. And as only Anakin had used the Force before Luke did, it doesn't really seem to run strong in the Skywalkers anyway.

 

I've always liked the midichlorians for one specific reason. I think it shows that the jedi simply were more advanced. Naturally after a millenia of peace, the jedi had researched why some are more attuned to the force and why some are not. Obi-wan probably had no way of measuring midichlorians on tatooine, and also probably thought it very unimportant to Luke's training.

I actually think it would be very strange if the Jedi, after 1000 years of peace, had still not figured out why some were more force sensitive than others.

Also, I don't remember any backlash to the old EU mentions of "Force-Sensitivity" testing. If I recall correctly, the old EU, Luke had several different tests he used to determine how force sensitive a person was, or if they were at all. I don't remember any criticism at all of that.

Honestly, the only reason I can see for criticism of midichlorians at all is that people are actively searching for something gripe about. This I think is proved by the fact that ten years ago, I don't ever remember a single person complaining about midichlorians. Now, after everyone has heard the argument, they think, "Yeah! Midichlorians do suck!"

I think very few people actually had a problem with them in the first place. Everyone else is just parroting.

 

Luke did use the Force without much Jedi training either. How do you think he was able to bullseye womprats like he did? He was using the Force without being aware that he was. Then, like his father, he is given a bit of a lesson and is able to make an incredible shot. Just as his father did.

 

Agree. I have no problem with the concept. Some people are stronger in the Force than others. The Force is still a mystical concept but there's some reasoning behind its use by people.

 

What I like about Midichlorians is how they also portray the difference between Jedi and Sith. In Episode I Qui-Gon says: "... we are symbionts with them" In Episode III Darth Sidious says "[Darth Plagueis] could use the Force to influence the Midichlorians to create life," So basically Jedi have a equal relationship with these midichlorians, while the Sith attempt to rule them.

 

Exactly. The Sith see the Force as a tool to be used for more selfish reasons, whereas the Jedi regard the Force with deeper respect and responsibility.

 

What is this nonsense even supposed to mean? "S.W." says nothing of personality type, nor is Anakin ever called noble. These things do not appear in exposition in the film. They were invented by people on the internet. That's not quite the same thing, is it?

ROTJ says, in more than one place, that Anakin's offspring have high Force potential... as a result of being his offspring. The outcome being dependent on personality type is oddly not mentioned. An accidental oversight, perhaps?

The point was that there was a biologically inherited factor in Force potential. No one ever said that meant it had to be midichlorians or microorganisms. But one biologically inherited factor is as good as another. They are, for all intents and purposes, isomorphic. Something is being passed down; it might as well be midichlorian count. And the difference in "power levels" is inherent to the idea that some people are strong in the Force while others are not strong in the Force ( or else it becomes meaningless to say that someone is strong in the Force ).

Lucas and Luke both seem to disagree with you, for whatever that's worth. It appears you're just throwing out that "exposition" you supposedly care so much about, now that it's in your way. Sad.

 

Hell, Abrams reused that line for the trailer for TFA.