Midichlorian question.

If the number of midichlorians that a person has increases their potential power within the force. Wouldn't it be easy to assume that Darth Vader would become weaker becasue he was "more machine now than human," as Obi-Wan put it. So, why is this not so?

 

It's a percentage, not a flat number. It doesn't matter how much blood you have, just how many midi-chlorians there are in relation to the amount of blood.

 

Hopefully once George Lucas finishes the movies and looks the other way, a brave author will prove that midichlorians have NOTHING to do with the force. They're as terrible an idea as Jar-Jar. Almost.

 

Yeah! And [insert additional clichéd complaint here]!

 

I second the motion to remove midichlorians completely! Was GL on deathsticks or something?

 

The Midichlorians weren't a bad idea. Lucas needed to show that Anakin was potentially the strongest of all the Jedi. It also showed that Anakin doesn't have a father, no need for another father surprise. And if Lucas doesn't do away with the idea I don't think he'd allow an author to contradict his idea.

 

I remember him saying something like he always envisioned Jedi-ability as more scientific. That he really didn't want it to seem so much of a religious thing as the OT made it come across. I don't know why, since references to religion are already all over all the movies.

 

"One method of detection is through blood sampling -- those with great Force potential often have high midi-chlorian counts in their bloodstream."-starwars.com

Often=not always, those with great force potential do not always have high midi-chlorian counts.

 

hopefully he will come up with a good explanation in EP 3

 

On a side note, what if there is a surprise father in Episode III?

If Anakin's father was a powerful Dark Sider, he could have had a relationship with Shmi, wiped her memory, and sold her into slavery.

What if Dooku is Anakin's father, and started the chain of chopping off the hand of the son?

 

On a side note, what if there is a surprise father in Episode III?

If Anakin's father was a powerful Dark Sider, he could have had a relationship with Shmi, wiped her memory, and sold her into slavery.

What if Dooku is Anakin's father, and started the chain of chopping off the hand of the son?

I've often posited the theory that Palpatine/Sidious was a likely choice for this as he had some serious fixation on cloning in his later years (Dark Empire) and had to have refined the process some over the decades before. So he likely tried several combinations of genetic fertilizations and cloning techniques, and Anakin could likely be either the only viableon or the most powerful one...

 

Hopefully once George Lucas finishes the movies and looks the other way, a brave author will prove that midichlorians have NOTHING to do with the force. They're as terrible an idea as Jar-Jar. Almost.

It's impossible for an EU author to prove that midichlorians have nothing to do with the force. The movies remain absolute canon regardless of what any EU material says.

 

If the movies don't mention midi-chlorians again, then EU authors can pretty much come up with something to bridge the gap between midi-chlorians and the descriptions of the Force in the OT, since things were left fairly vague in TPM.

 

in some interview, lucas confirmed that he wasnt trying to come up with another religion, just a concept that would make people realize that there's something bigger than all of us out there; that there are things that science cant explain. bringing in the "midi" only helps him further the distance between the idea that he was trying to create a religion.

the force is a mixture of myth and religion from several cultures in order to make it[the force] universal. thats why so many religions were able to see their belief system reflected in the original trilogy at the same time. keep in mind that while one set of beliefs is a religon to group a, it can easily be seen as a myth by group b.

having the "midi" does not make the force less mysterious but more so. if the force only depended on what was in your blood stream, then the jedi's ability to use the force never should have diminished. just like vader being more machine than man should have made him weaker but instead he was stronger. these aspects of the force cant be explained by science, so all a person could say about vader is that he had "the gift" and that is why he was stronger.

based on lucas' track record so far, its a safe bet that there wont be a father surprise or any more details on the "midi"; just like there were no details on jedi disappearing or the sith order in AOTC even though he claimed there would be. save his interviews. all of em. someone should piece together a link that would act as a lucas interview "file". they seem to be the only place where we get our questions answered anyway.

 

Midi-chlorians sound like something out of STAR TREK.
(I'm no big fan of Trekkies)

 

Don't you see we created Midichlorians.

US: So, the force, where does it come from?
GEORGE: It doesn't, the force isn't real. In the movies it's just there, within and around the characters.
US: Yeah but seriously George, where does the force 'come from'?
GEORGE: (Sigh) Fine you forced it out of me (Sarc) The Force is created by tiny little craetures called, er, Midichlorians in the cells of Jedi. (Shakes head in disbelief)

 

Hey folks...I'm new to the EU boards, so forgive me if this is too much suited for other boards. But just curious- how would you (those of you who wouldn't mind seeing GL revisit midichlorians) like to see them being brought back, i.e. in what capacity? I have a hard time believing that they won't be used in Episode III in some way, be it with cloning, Anakin's origin, what have you....

 

I would like it explained thoroughly that Qui-Gon said what he said because all the fruit he ate at dinner was fermented.