Mild Language and Rebels

Lion King being dark? My goodness gracious that is the first time I have ever heard that one before. Who knows how many other cartoon network shows show murder or death but it is obvious you are exaggerating how intense animation films are with your Lion King comment (I seriously doubt Disney would hesitate to show the Lion King on its channels even with all those dark themes you say it has).

And yes I have seen a few episodes of Black Lagoon and it is one dumb show. Saying cuss words just for the sake of saying cuss words is pretty stupid. Non animation shows that do the same thing are equally as dumb.

 

It is? Well damn..

 

Yeah there is nothing wrong with a few cuss words here or there to show personality or emotion but those ******** anime shows throw out cuss words left and right just for the sake of cussing.

 

Todd I do think cussing is more serious in youth programming than cartoon violence is. I think 99% of kids are able to realize how fake cartoon violence is and don't really take it seriously. However a cuss word is still a cuss word rather it is used in adult programming or children's programming.

By the way some people on here seem to be hung up on cartoon violence think of all the god awful things that happened in all those looney tunes cartoons. People being slammed into the grounds by trees, donald duck shooting who knows what at whatever he was mad at. Tom and Jerry abusing one another...my goodness we could go on all day long.

 

Ahsoka decapitating four people at once, slaves being killed in the masses on whim, implicit sexual slavery, and suicide to escape bondage are alright, but saying a curse is unforgivable?

 

We'll agree to disagree. I found the characters to be alot more interesting than meets the eye, especially Rock who goes from cheerful upbeat to jaded and playing others. I didn't keep watching Black Lagoon for the ways they invented to use cuss words. Pirates, super soldiers, and mafias would do that right? Cursing, gore, sex, and etc does not automatically make something mature or intense. I'm not the first person to say The Lion King is dark for a Disney Film and won't be the last. Murder from within ones own family is a fairly dark concept for some. I'm old enough to remember the outrage when The Lion King hit theaters in 94 that Simba's own uncle murdered his father instead of it being some random bad guy.

You know. I had a parent a little while back ask if she thought Animorphs would be a good choice for her son to start reading. She wanted to look at the books first however I guess because a good parent screens to make sure their kid can handle what they read, or more likely this one is just over protective. I loaned her the three books in the David Saga to flip though. She read them and gave them back to me saying she actually thought they were to much for her son. Animorphs does use hell, bastard, and damn. It also says stuff like 'And then Jake said the worst word of all and got sent to the principles office' which even as a kid I always assumed had to be **** and laughed at. That's not what she returned them to me for though. She told me it was the violence in the books where the kids morph into animals which tend to get their legs blown off which is described in first person since that is how the books are written. She also didn't like the kind of moral choices presented in the books and the choices the Animorphs made.

Disney is capable of allowing some violence in their movies like the Pirates of the Caribbean franchise and even The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe where Aslan (Jesus) kills the White Witch by jumping on top of her and giving her the lion's kiss of death even if the last we see is Aslan's maw engulfing Jadis's face (ever seen on Nat Geo where a lion grabs a buffalo by the nose? Now that's when **** gets real. 700 pounds per square inch of jaw pressure driving four inch canines). But Television has different standards. I hope that with Greg Weisman involved we can atleast get to Gargoyles level with episodes like "Deadly Force", "Vows", The City of stone arc, and The Hunters Moon arc.

 

There is nothing wrong with it. However this thread has turned into cussing/swearing and violence shown in animation form. And I've been saying that swearing in a cartoon is more intense than seeing a piece of paper or software (which pretty much all kids know that is all cartoons are) get involved in a violent act. And that is why I think parents have a problem with swearing in cartoons but not so much with particular violent acts shown in a cartoon.

 

I dunno. I've also been in alot of arguments with parents about whether Power Rangers is detrimental to there kids. I always hate parents who take the stand their kids will copy the martial arts in Power Rangers and try to beat each other up. Dammit when I was a kid and played Billy most of the time because I was weird like that me and my friends never seriously beat each other up playing Power Rangers or tried out any moves. If your kid gets interested in Martial Arts because of Power Rangers how is that bad? Take them to Karate and get their asses off the couch for a couple hours a week. Seriously if you kid is going around beating people up after watching Power Rangers there are bigger problems there because the Power Rangers use their cool karate to rescue people and stop Lord Zedd or Astronema from taking over the earth. They don't even just beat up Bulk and Skull no matter how many parties those two crash. Hell they'll see through Bulk and Skull that bullies are bad but they can be overcome and they can even change into better people with the right help.

I don't understand that particular adult either. I think part of it was she actually read the books and then over analysed some stuff in Anirmophs like the fact it is a damn war, war sucks, the Animorphs are not winning their war, and Animorphs does not sugarcoat anything.

 

Not directed at me, but I'll pitch in since I haven't been involved in this conversation as of yet. My problem with little kids hearing a swear word or two would be that they not recognize that it's a bad word, and begin saying it. Now, that would be up to the parent to tell them not to say it or not, but to tell the truth, I cringe whenever I hear a kid, or even a teenager, swear like a sailor. About a year ago, when summer break was going on where I lived before, teenagers would come into the Subway I worked at, and I'd just cringe because some of them would spew out blistering profanity. And me, 17 at the time, being older than some of them–I've never once sworn (not patting myself on the back, or anything, I just prefer not to swear)–I just cringed because to me, it's one thing for an adult to swear, but some of those teens couldn't have possibly even known what the word meant. That's just my 2 cents.

Now go ahead, tear me apart for being prudish–but that's not what I intended to convey, I promise.

 

I kinda agree with the above statement. I don't have a problem with 'bad words' well really I do, I say them all the time. But I have always been annoyed by punks, especially middle schoolers and young teenagers who do it just because they think it makes them look cool and more adult. I really hate it when customers seem to think they scare me when they are yelling **** every other sentence. Actually your chances of getting a credit from me are even slimmer. Calm down and lets have an adult conversation about those Upgrade Fees for real.

 

It's not just customers. It was coworkers. One guy told me (admittedly, he was an adult so it was a different thing) after he'd just let out a string of blistering profanity, "Sorry, dude, I just really like to cuss." I was like, "Uh...well, okay."

 

I've worked in a call center for the blue globe and now I manage social media for them. I have endless stories of things customers say and do.

I'm starting to wonder if this thread had run its course...

 

Swearing is more intense than cartoon violence. Now I wouldn't call it more intense than real live actors killing and fighting eachother. But any kid who has trouble dealing with cartoons beating each other up and doing other violent things has some issues.

 

Kids are a lot more likely to repeat what cartoons said then they are to go and repeat any violent act a cartoon performed or lose sleep over any violent acts a cartoon performed.