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Senate Turkey and democracy (formerly: Military coup happening now, in Turkey)

Discussion in 'Community' started by Ghost, Jul 15, 2016.

  1. GenAntilles

    GenAntilles Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    And apparently Erdogan is asking for the death penalty to be legalized again and had a crowd of people cheering in support of that.
     
  2. Point Given

    Point Given Manager star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    Yeah I'm certainly entertaining the notion that Erdogan either knew or encouraged the attempt before hand. Not sure if he actually planned it but I wouldn't put it past him, given the response and the fortitious happenings during the attempt.
     
  3. ShaneP

    ShaneP Ex-Mod Officio star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Literally everything that could go wrong for the plotters did go wrong. Then again, many coup attempts fail so it's not like it's an easy thing and should have been a cake walk.

    But just one suspicious thing too was that Erdogan claimed his seaside villa on the Aegean was bombed in an assassination attempt. Locals posted pictures showing it was completely unscathed.
     
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  4. Abadacus

    Abadacus Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I am avoiding speaking too explicitly about this mess, so instead I will just repost these two completely unrelated images:
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  5. DANNASUK

    DANNASUK Force Ghost star 7

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    US has warned Turkey is facing possible expulsion from NATO.
     
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  6. CT1138

    CT1138 Jedi Master star 4

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    Be cautious, dude. People get cranky when you make analogies.
     
  7. Lord Vivec

    Lord Vivec Chosen One star 9

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    People get cranky when you bring in cringeworthy Star Wars references into a serious thread about world events. You seem determined not to learn this.
     
  8. CT1138

    CT1138 Jedi Master star 4

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    I seem to recall, in the old EU, Palpatine staging an attack within the Senate Guard in order to justify the creation of the Red Guard. That's not a cringeworthy reference, that's an apt comparison. In fact, that is EXACTLY what dear Pesistratos did above.
     
  9. DANNASUK

    DANNASUK Force Ghost star 7

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    Turkish Twitter users are reporting police stopping individuals and demanding to see social media messages. Remember, "democracy was saved"
     
  10. Violent Violet Menace

    Violent Violet Menace Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I don't know about you other guys, but insightful and sharp analyses like these are why I come to the JCC.

    A+!
     
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  11. Lord Vivec

    Lord Vivec Chosen One star 9

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    Uh the AKP are an Islamist party that treats Kurds and minorities badly.
     
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  12. ShaneP

    ShaneP Ex-Mod Officio star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I come for the liquor.
     
  13. Lord Vivec

    Lord Vivec Chosen One star 9

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    We already have a why are you in the JCC thread.
     
  14. DANNASUK

    DANNASUK Force Ghost star 7

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    Erdogen has announced, if Parliament brings in a death penalty bill, he will sign it. If that happens, EU will end ascension talks (guarenteed) and probably reduce cooperation.
     
  15. dp4m

    dp4m Chosen One star 10

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    I come for the living people who treat me with lovingkindness as the bible instructs... <3

    Also the hookers and blow.
     
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  16. ShaneP

    ShaneP Ex-Mod Officio star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    As they should. If he continues down this path, they should be booted from NATO and talks of full membership in EU should be tabled.

    Or perhaps that's an overreaction. Maybe keeping him in the fold will enable other states to put pressure on him?
     
  17. Lord Vivec

    Lord Vivec Chosen One star 9

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    You know there's this other country with the death penalty in NATO.
     
  18. ShaneP

    ShaneP Ex-Mod Officio star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    No, booted from full ascension in EU. NATO is over the air base row.
     
  19. DANNASUK

    DANNASUK Force Ghost star 7

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    The US currently has nuclear weapons in Turkey....
     
  20. ShaneP

    ShaneP Ex-Mod Officio star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Aren't they staged at Incirlik?
     
  21. Violent Violet Menace

    Violent Violet Menace Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    As opposed to all the non-Islamist Turkish parties that treat Kurds and minorities well?
     
  22. DANNASUK

    DANNASUK Force Ghost star 7

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    Yep.
    If the Pentagon had any sense, they'll be drawing up plans to remove those nukes asap.
     
  23. Lord Vivec

    Lord Vivec Chosen One star 9

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    I have no idea what kind of point you're trying to make, but no one is saying that only Islamists treat minorities badly. We're saying that Erdogan's supporters are both islamists and treat minorities badly.
     
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  24. ShaneP

    ShaneP Ex-Mod Officio star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    yikes.
     
  25. soitscometothis

    soitscometothis Chosen One star 6

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    We should send in Boris.