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Mistakes people often make about the Saga

Discussion in 'Star Wars Saga In-Depth' started by Darth_Articulate, May 6, 2015.

  1. Darth_Articulate

    Darth_Articulate Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    1. "Luke, am I your father" is actually "No. I am your father"
    2. Every time some description of ANH describes the plot as Luke and xyz teaming up to rescue Princess Leia from Darth Vader, I wince just a little. Luke et al are teaming up to deliver the Death Star Plans to rebel leaders. The rescue is incidental.

    Any other mistakes people often make about SW?
     
  2. Cushing's Admirer

    Cushing's Admirer Chosen One star 7

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    I agree with the first. The second isn't a mistake merely left to personal interpretation as is most things in SW.
     
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  3. Darth_Articulate

    Darth_Articulate Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Not really. It's pretty clear in the movie that's what their goal is. They don't even realize she's in the Death Star until they're trapped there too.
     
  4. Cushing's Admirer

    Cushing's Admirer Chosen One star 7

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    That's how you choose to take it. I and others take it that once they found out it is a very deliberate choice and not coincidental.
     
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  5. Darth_Articulate

    Darth_Articulate Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I never said it was coincidental. Of course it's a deliberate choice. One deliberate choice amongst many. From the time they find out to the time they actually rescue her is about 1/4 of the movie. It is hardly the main plot. The plot is that they "team up" to deliver the Death Star Plans to the Rebel leaders. Princess Leia clearly requests that Obi-Wan perform that very objective, not-open-for-interpretation task. It couldn't more clear if it was glass. Are you just trying to be argumentative?
     
  6. Saga Explorer

    Saga Explorer Jedi Knight star 3

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    That Darth Vader is the main villain .( Either in ANH or the whole Saga )
    ... he's not .
    That Midichlorians are the Force .
     
  7. Seagoat

    Seagoat Former Manager star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I think a good deal of the more vocal complaints would quiet down if they were to simply pay attention to what Qui-Gon says

    It bewilders me, however, when I try to explain it as simply as possible that someone continues to vehemently enforce their misunderstanding as a fact. Such stubbornness is honestly confusing
     
  8. L110

    L110 Jedi Master star 4

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    That Lucas ever said that he had the entire story thought through in detail from beginning to end.
     
  9. darksideDINO

    darksideDINO Jedi Knight star 1

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    Yeah, he definitely made it up as he went along. He may have had the core themes he wanted to portray, but beyond ANH a lot of collaboration sealed the deal.

    You only have to look at the PT to see that Mr Lucas needs other creative input to truly realise his vision.

    He ain't no director and he sure ain't no actor's director...pity
     
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  10. Seeker Of The Whills

    Seeker Of The Whills Jedi Master star 4

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    I think you made a little mistake yourself. "Luke, am I your father?" would be pretty hilarious.
     
  11. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    Calling Anakin "Luke".

    Referring to a "Sith race" that Sidious is part of.

    Calling Sidious "THE Sith Lord"
     
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  12. Saga Explorer

    Saga Explorer Jedi Knight star 3

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    There are people who call Anakin ... Luke o_O ? ... [face_laugh]
     
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  13. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    There's many. Someone recalled "Luke" winning the podrace, somebody referred to their shirt with Jake Lloyd Anakin and Darth Vader on it as having "Luke and Vader" on it and someone said that they "saw the one where Luke becomes Darth Vader".
     
  14. Saga Explorer

    Saga Explorer Jedi Knight star 3

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    OK ... Everyday learning something new apparently .
     
  15. Chancellor Yoda

    Chancellor Yoda Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Now is this part of star wars fandom or just people who have never saw star wars?
     
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  16. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    They have seen Star Wars. They just weren't invested in it enough to remember the name "Anakin".
     
  17. L110

    L110 Jedi Master star 4

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    Lucas had plenty of other creative input to realise his vision during "PT".
    Oh he IS a director, there´s no question about that.
     
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  18. Chancellor Yoda

    Chancellor Yoda Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Thanks for the clarification. :) I can understand if someone mistaking Luke and Anakin if don't know hardly anything about star wars. But it is weird that some who have seen star wars don't know the difference between Luke and Anakin.
     
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  19. Cushing's Admirer

    Cushing's Admirer Chosen One star 7

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    Given Luke did become Vader in ESB it's really not that surprising.
     
  20. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    I think people make the mistake of seeing Star Wars as a series of superhero movies rather than a series of fantasy movies.
     
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  21. darksideDINO

    darksideDINO Jedi Knight star 1

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    Who exactly helped him refine the story, or script? Clearly nobody.
    Who was there to say no to Jar Jar Binks? Clearly nobody.
    Who was there to say no George, don't do it!? Clearly nobody!

    Name one film George Lucas directed and had success with before and beyond star wars?
    Name the best and critically acclaimed star wars episode that George Lucas didn't write on his lonesome and also didn't direct?
    Name the director he had to call in to help him finish ROTS?

    Asking someone to draw a picture of a space ship isn't exactly creative input, is it?
     
  22. Alexrd

    Alexrd Chosen One star 6

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    First, why are you implying that the story needed to be refined and that a character should be removed? And there were many people suggesting ideas as seen in the documentaries. And last but not least, people saying yes or no is irrelevant since George is the one who decides what he wants in the end. In fact, George is known for saying to not worry that he will take the blame.

    That's supposed to prove what exactly?

    For what?

    Nobody.

    Yes, it is. Why are you implying the opposite?

    P.S: Damn it. Fed it again...
     
  23. PiettsHat

    PiettsHat Force Ghost star 4

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    A big one I see is that a lot of people seem to think that Vader ordered the destruction of Alderaan. That was Tarkin. Vader was definitely complicit, but Tarkin's the one who actually gave the order (distressingly, a lot of people seem to forget Tarkin exists at all).

    Also a lot of people seem confused about Anakin and Padmé's ages as well. I've seen people think Anakin is 6 in TPM and Padmé is 18.
     
  24. sarlaccsaurs-rex

    sarlaccsaurs-rex Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    As a little kid I remember some idiot in elementary school say "Anakins Skywalker vs Dark Vader!!!" He then proclaimed he "knew more about star wars than me." :rolleyes:

    Also when kids cant understand that the prequels TAKE PLACE BEFORE the originals.

    The newbies that think pre-2014 the EU was "always" a "separate universe".
     
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  25. Cushing's Admirer

    Cushing's Admirer Chosen One star 7

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    PH: Thank you for acknowledging that Vader is complicit as well. Very few do.
     
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