MS Update Mod Squad Update for January 5th, 2011 - Policy Changes

Jesus Christ, a god damn informative update!

They beat Boston!: 2009-2010 L.A. Lakers: Back-to-Back World Champions

 

Goddammit, I can't think of a clever way to use both newly-allowed words in a post.

 

Thanks for the updates! Nice to see it packaged all in once place.

 

Let the blasphemy commence!

 

Jesus Christ, can I finally post in the God dammit Star Wars forums again?

 

loosening certain rules like this (a good thing, i should add) only further highlights the ridiculousness of others, though (i.e. the letter "b" aside the letter "s"). we can take the lords name in vain but can't write an ackronym of an arguably less offensive profanity? surely the mods should discuss the "bs" issue in light of the precedent set with the current rule amendment.

 

I said clever

 

You speak no bs, epic.

 

Wow, really reaching out to the bottom tenth percentile.
I guess somebody has to be persuaded to come to the boards now.
What a difference a decade makes.

 

Thanks for the update. Appreciate the transparency.

Regarding society's generally-accepted hierarchy of profanity:
Damn, hell, etc: When said to someone who believes in God, implies you are asking that they spend eternity being tortured. No biggie.
Synonyms for bodily functions, sex acts, taboo anatomy: lolol, poop! This is bad for our children's eyes and must never be spoken of.
It may not make sense, but alas, one can't change the world on a website.

That said, epic's point about certain acronyms makes perfect sense to me.

 

If you're going to let offensive terms like God Damn it, and Jesus Christ acceptable, you seriously need to revisit retarded. I understand calling another user retarded would be considered a flame, but in any other context there's no reason it should still be on the not allowed list if you're willing to let many people that would be offended by god damn it and Jesus Christ deal with their beliefs being pissed on.

Thank you, as always for reading suggestion, and casting aside.

 

Counterpoint to this, while both "Jesus Christ" and "God Damn" are considered offensive, it is based out of a singular religious viewpoint.

The reasons behind 'retarded' being on the list is of a completely different nature in that it is used as a derogatory term with an explicit judgement on a specific group of people for whom that term has been historically applied to. Should we also be taking the term 'gay/ghey' off the list, or even 'nigger' as they are barred from useage for the same reasons that 'retarded' is?

 

No, I suppose not.

 

"that's retarded" = "that's stupid" = ok
"you're retarded" = "you're stupid" = not ok

It's 2011. It's part of the internet vernacular. Nazi-ing words on the internet is really REALLY dated. Try to keep up.

 

where's my counterpoint eh?

 

My damn bitch dog (with a douche in her arse) told your bastard penis "b*"

I think I'm good!

 

epic, one only counterpoints something that they disagree with.


Flare, you are oh so clever, would you like a gold star for that?

And we have every right to dictate a minimum standard of language for interaction on this site. There are a lot of things that are considered to be internet norms that we don't allow here and we can pick and choose as we wish if we want to. There are certain profanities that are commonplace in their use, but there's no way that we are allowing them to be used on these forums.

 

Yes Dingo we acknowledge your power. *bow*

The point is, things have changed on the internet. Time to adapt.

 

I still say the logic behind the "retarded" ban is backwards. It's not a very nice word, so I find it offensive that it should only be used when referring to sick people. Others probably find it offensive that I called mentally challenged persons "sick people" just now, because they always go to great lengths to make up as many euphemisms as possible (challenged? special?). But then calling them retarded is fine? What?

And it's not comparable to gay. It's the exact opposite. Go find the MS thread on it from a few years back, we explained that wonderfully there.

And it's also not comparable to the n-word. A n****r is exactly one thing. But many things can be retarded. Forum rules, movie plots, FoxNews, similies, internet opinions...

 

That's stupid.

A "gyp" can be more than one thing. Like paying $10 for a candy bar. But it's universally a slur referring to gypsies/Roma. I can "Jew" down the price of a used car. Hell, "homo" can mean "same," right? It's also the human genus! "Gay" can also mean happy. So let's pretend that "retarded" doesn't insult mentally disabled people because we can broaden its usage.

 

On the new text, it's not entirely clear if you're referring to JC Admins, FF Admins or both groups together. Yes, I did read the 'three administrators must be in agreement' part but it's otherwise vague and doesn't say anything more about which administrators will be doing the investigating (all six?) and who will be making decisions (The three from whichever side the complaint originated from?)

 

For the record, the derogatory etymology of "gyp" is contested, and OED attributes it to servants at Oxford who wore a kind of jacket called a "gippo."

 

Honestly, 506, I thought that was pretty self-explanatory. If the issue on the JC side, the three JC administrators must be in agreement; if its on the FF side, the three FF administrators must be in agreement. That's for the decision. Investigating would be the responsibility of the admins of whichever side the issue is on. That said, the administrators from the other side would certainly be welcome to give their input during the investigation.