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Movie Mistakes in Episode III

Discussion in 'Archive: Revenge of the Sith' started by Master_Plagueis, May 22, 2005.

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l33tn00b Jedi Youngling

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JediOnion said:

THE ANCIENT JEDI

170,000 years ago, in the Vordarian Beltway Galaxy, 850 trillion light years from our Milky Way Galaxy, a saga began. The Sith were discovered on their home world, Korriban, by the millennia old Galactic Republic. (This was about 75,000 years after the formation of the Galactic Republic under the first Supreme Chancellor, Merk Quanto.) The Sith were a primitive species, but had a powerful secret form of magic and religion. They had existed peacefully for centuries, undiscovered. Unfortunately, it was shortly after their discovery and the founding of the Jedi Order that an imbalance was created.

Kaja Sinis was a Civian born on Coruscant 25,000 years before The Phantom Menace. He was the first Jedi and founder of the Order of Jedi Bendu Knights. The term Jedi meant ?light bringer? in the Civian language. Sinis created the techniques allowing one to use the Force. He discovered two sides of the Force, the good side (called ?Ashla? in Civian) and the dark side (called ?Bogan? in Civian). In the early years, it was the duty of a Jedi to study both the Ashla and the Bogan, but serve the Ashla or good side.

His first student or padawan was Shintor Beerus, a Twi?lek Sinis discovered on the planet Nefarion. The Jedi Academy on Coruscant grew large under the two and eventually the Civian home world, Ophuchi, was transformed into the Jedi stronghold. Kaja Sinis, aided by the Jedi scientist, Cobar Jacash, created the first light saber, as well as the first Jedi Holocron, a small hand-held cube which contained Jedi history. Cobar Jacash was a Bomewright from Sullest. Future Jedi light saber scientists tended to be Bomewrights as well.

Kaja Sinis built his light saber by finding a crystal on a secret planet to create the blade of light. Every Jedi followed in this path. They went to this secret planet and had to find either a green, blue or purple crystal in order to create their light saber. Whether this secret planet is identical with Vronioc, the most Force-sensitive planet in the Galaxy, of the Jedi stronghold planet, Ophuchi, is not known. After finding their crystal, Jedi constructed their own light sabers, often with the assistance of a Bomerwright Jedi scientist.

After training Beerus, Sinis trained many padawans, including Oton Grent, Issius Pallon, Quotar Forsh and Whel Baroc. Beerus trained many padawans as well, including Xis Latos, Don Votal, Eegis Plati and Yag Malore. The Jedi supported the Peace established by the Republic. Sadly, in Sinis? lifetime, the Dark Jedi were created by a rogue Jedi named Zooti Frugan. Dark Jedi could act as free agents, choosing any color of light saber they could create and even training themselves without a master. These Dark Jedi studied both sides of the Force, but emphasized the dark side or the Bogan. With the rebellion of Zooti Froogan and others, the Jedi Council under Kaja Sinis saw that an imbalance had been created, so the practice of studying the dark side was disbanded. Nonetheless, the Dark Jedi were already flourishing.

The Sith were conquered by Dark Jedi who adopted their form of magic in Sinis? lifetime. These Jedi called themselves Sith Lords. The first known Sith Lord of recorded history was Darth Scarz. In imitation of the Jedi Holocron, the Sith made their own holocron, the Sith Holocron. The tension between the two sides eventually came to a head at the Battle of Omicras, the first major conflict between the Sith and Jedi. Nonetheless, the Sith Lords remained and continued to grow the Sith Order including non-Sith species in their Order, as one Sith Dynasty succeeded another.

Kaja Sinis slew 3 Sith Lords and 17 Dark Jedi in his life due to their attacks on the Jedi. The 3 Sith Lords were Darth Mirage, Darth Sinistar and Darth Horrar. The 17 Dark Jedi were discovered and slain in the Dungstaka Uprising on the planet Natisular. Kaja Sinis was eventually assassinated at the ripe age of 187 under the orders of Prince Ganchok Krancore of Utarius, by a bounty hunter named Harbontin Dumis. Dumis slew Sinis by means of a f
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l33tn00b, Jul 7, 2005

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Greedo_forever Jedi Youngling

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May 24, 2005

Movie Mistakes in Episode III:

No Rodian jedis. BIG MISTAKE.

Greedo_forever, Jul 7, 2005

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SSIntimidator Jedi Padawan

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JediOnion said:

THE ANCIENT JEDI...

...Luke Skywalker and his sister, Leia Organa Solo, continued in their positions of leadership. 20 years after Episode 7, they entered into negotiations with the fierce Raverons of the Unknown Regions. The Raverons attempted to take over the Republic, breaking their negotiations. Luckily, the Raverons failed. Luke and Leia lived to be well over 100 years old. With Leia?s passing, Grone Tisal, Chief of Coruscant Secret Security, became the next elected Chief of State. The Jedi Order continued to prosper and protect the Galaxy under Luke?s son, Ben Skywalker. Peace was established throughout the Galaxy.
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Uh.... okay. What a lovely little write up from some EU source. Too bad Grievous wasn't slain by Vader and Episodes 7-9 will never exist.

SSIntimidator, Jul 7, 2005

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SSIntimidator Jedi Padawan

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Another problem with the book above, Yoda's homeworld, history and species are unknown.

Who wrote that thing anyway.

SSIntimidator, Jul 7, 2005

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darth-sinister Manager Emeritus VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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That, my friends, is Supershadow. They fail to include all the eu information on the Sith. Namely the era of Naga Sadow and Exar Kun.

darth-sinister, Jul 7, 2005

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obi-wan_kenobi_1113 Jedi Youngling

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Darth_Turkey said:

Leia, not force sensitive?!! She is the off-spring of the most powerful force being of all time, ANAKIN!! How could she not be force sensitive?! Obi-Wan would have to be a complete IDIOT to discard Leia's force prone situation.

I think the point of the scene where obi-wan says "that boy is our last hope"

and yoda says "no, there is another"

Is becasue obi-wan is worried he's goin to lose luke to the darkside and then there will be no one trained in the force, no other jedi to save them. But yoda knows leia will one day learn to use her abilities and could become a jedi. Obi-wan is "writing leia off" in a way and seeing that is would be too late to train her, should luke be killed or turned. But yoda does'nt think like this and knows her potential is as great as lukes.
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I don't think Obi-wan was "writing Leia off" at all. Leia was a prominent Senator who had already been captured by Vader. She was one of the most powerful leaders of the Rebellion. How would she have any opportunity to train with her responsibilities? Where could she train to avoid Vader? More importantly, at the time of Luke's departure from Dagobah, Leia and Han were considered to be in mortal danger. Luke stressed to the Jedi that his friends would die if he didn't go to them. There was never any evidence that they would survive even if Luke tried. I think Yoda was reassuring Obi-wan that the future is in constant motion and never clear. They had to hope that at least one of the Skywalkers would survive. After the PT, its easy to understand why Obi-wan's hope is fragile. He had much hope for Anakin, the Chosen One.

obi-wan_kenobi_1113, Jul 7, 2005

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Mace_Windolene Jedi Youngling

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darth-sinister said:

That, my friends, is Supershadow. They fail to include all the eu information on the Sith. Namely the era of Naga Sadow and Exar Kun.
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It's also got a lot of errors. For example, Mace was from Harrun Kal and General Grievous was not force sensitive.

Mace_Windolene, Jul 7, 2005

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Mace_Windolene Jedi Youngling

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When Palpatine tells Anakin that Darth Plagueis had learned how to create life, why didn't Anakin question him about his virgin birth?

Mace_Windolene, Jul 7, 2005

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Justio_Ofest1977 Jedi Youngling

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Why's Owen pissed at Obi-Wan and Anakin? He is Hiding the fact that obi wan was anis master.

Why does Owen not remember C3PO? he has owned many droids over the years a 3p0 unit looks like a 3p0 unit

When does Obi-Wan "serve" under Bail Organa? he served the senate bail was a senator

Why does Vader's suit look different in ANH? upgraded

Why does Vader not sense anything in Luke or Leia? what do you mean he says "the force is strong in this one"

How does Chewbacca end up a lacky to Han Solo? EU stuff

Why do the stormtroopers not speak like Jango Fett? many clone hosts were used over the years

Why don't Yoda and Obi-Wan take both the kids to Degobah and train them? this a a hard one... bail asked for leia first JK lol.....The force on daboga would be to strong.

How do Obi-Wan and Yoda keep in contact therefore contacting Qui-Gon Jinn? how do you know he dident

Why didn't Vader just kill Palpatine when he figured out he lied about knowing how to save someone from death or when he found out Padme was killed? he was his master...plus he could keep him alive

Why is Darth Vader a mere lacky to Grand Moff Tarkin but in charge of the Grand Moff in Return of the Jedi? Grand Moff Tarkin is a Grand Moff Moff Jarrod was just a Moff.

Justio the Star wars Expert

Any Questions look for my question post,....

Justio_Ofest1977, Jul 7, 2005

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DINVADER99 Jedi Youngling

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All these questions have been answered already.

Why does Vader's suit look different in ANH?
Vader's suit has small changes from movie to movie in all the SW films he is in.

DINVADER99, Jul 7, 2005

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KnightWriter Administrator Emeritus VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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Moving up.

KnightWriter, Jul 7, 2005

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DarthBoba Manager Emeritus VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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l33tn00b said:

JediOnion said:

THE ANCIENT JEDI

170,000 years ago, in the Vordarian Beltway Galaxy, 850 trillion light years from our Milky Way Galaxy, a saga began. The Sith were discovered on their home world, Korriban, by the millennia old Galactic Republic. (This was about 75,000 years after the formation of the Galactic Republic under the first Supreme Chancellor, Merk Quanto.) The Sith were a primitive species, but had a powerful secret form of magic and religion. They had existed peacefully for centuries, undiscovered. Unfortunately, it was shortly after their discovery and the founding of the Jedi Order that an imbalance was created.

Kaja Sinis was a Civian born on Coruscant 25,000 years before The Phantom Menace. He was the first Jedi and founder of the Order of Jedi Bendu Knights. The term Jedi meant ?light bringer? in the Civian language. Sinis created the techniques allowing one to use the Force. He discovered two sides of the Force, the good side (called ?Ashla? in Civian) and the dark side (called ?Bogan? in Civian). In the early years, it was the duty of a Jedi to study both the Ashla and the Bogan, but serve the Ashla or good side.

His first student or padawan was Shintor Beerus, a Twi?lek Sinis discovered on the planet Nefarion. The Jedi Academy on Coruscant grew large under the two and eventually the Civian home world, Ophuchi, was transformed into the Jedi stronghold. Kaja Sinis, aided by the Jedi scientist, Cobar Jacash, created the first light saber, as well as the first Jedi Holocron, a small hand-held cube which contained Jedi history. Cobar Jacash was a Bomewright from Sullest. Future Jedi light saber scientists tended to be Bomewrights as well.

Kaja Sinis built his light saber by finding a crystal on a secret planet to create the blade of light. Every Jedi followed in this path. They went to this secret planet and had to find either a green, blue or purple crystal in order to create their light saber. Whether this secret planet is identical with Vronioc, the most Force-sensitive planet in the Galaxy, of the Jedi stronghold planet, Ophuchi, is not known. After finding their crystal, Jedi constructed their own light sabers, often with the assistance of a Bomerwright Jedi scientist.

After training Beerus, Sinis trained many padawans, including Oton Grent, Issius Pallon, Quotar Forsh and Whel Baroc. Beerus trained many padawans as well, including Xis Latos, Don Votal, Eegis Plati and Yag Malore. The Jedi supported the Peace established by the Republic. Sadly, in Sinis? lifetime, the Dark Jedi were created by a rogue Jedi named Zooti Frugan. Dark Jedi could act as free agents, choosing any color of light saber they could create and even training themselves without a master. These Dark Jedi studied both sides of the Force, but emphasized the dark side or the Bogan. With the rebellion of Zooti Froogan and others, the Jedi Council under Kaja Sinis saw that an imbalance had been created, so the practice of studying the dark side was disbanded. Nonetheless, the Dark Jedi were already flourishing.

The Sith were conquered by Dark Jedi who adopted their form of magic in Sinis? lifetime. These Jedi called themselves Sith Lords. The first known Sith Lord of recorded history was Darth Scarz. In imitation of the Jedi Holocron, the Sith made their own holocron, the Sith Holocron. The tension between the two sides eventually came to a head at the Battle of Omicras, the first major conflict between the Sith and Jedi. Nonetheless, the Sith Lords remained and continued to grow the Sith Order including non-Sith species in their Order, as one Sith Dynasty succeeded another.

Kaja Sinis slew 3 Sith Lords and 17 Dark Jedi in his life due to their attacks on the Jedi. The 3 Sith Lords were Darth Mirage, Darth Sinistar and Darth Horrar. The 17 Dark Jedi were discovered and slain in the Dungstaka Uprising on the planet Natisular. Kaja Sinis was eventually assassinated at the ripe age of 187 under the orders of Prince Ganchok Krancore of Utarius, by a bounty hunter named Harbontin Dumis. Dumis slew Sinis
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DarthBoba, Jul 7, 2005

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Mace_Windolene said:

When Palpatine tells Anakin that Darth Plagueis had learned how to create life, why didn't Anakin question him about his virgin birth?
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Because he has bigger things on his mind like saving his wife, maybe?

DarthBoba, Jul 7, 2005

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Mace_Windolene Jedi Youngling

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DarthBoba said:

Mace_Windolene said:

When Palpatine tells Anakin that Darth Plagueis had learned how to create life, why didn't Anakin question him about his virgin birth?
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Because he has bigger things on his mind like saving his wife, maybe?
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Oh come on, even with the weight of the world on your mind you'd have to be a complete numbskull not to wonder about that bombshell!

Mace_Windolene, Jul 8, 2005

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QuiGonHrafn Jedi Grand Master

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Has it ever been confirmed that Anakin knows of the virgin birth. We don't know what Shmi told Anakin in regards to his father?

Why didn't Vader just kill Palpatine when he figured out he lied about knowing how to save someone from death or when he found out Padme was killed?

Because he wasn't strong enough. The 100% fit Anakin was able to kill Palpatine but the newly suited Vader couldn't. He was close to death and had lost much of his Jedi abilities when Obi Wan "killed him". And he could only kill Palpatine in JEDI because Palpatine was distracted in the pleasure of killing Luke Skywalker and never expected it (his arrogance).

QuiGonHrafn, Jul 9, 2005

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lrdmonarch Jedi Youngling

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DarthBoba said:

l33tn00b said:

was this copied from superidiot?
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Yes.
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You know none of it is true, right?

Superidiot goes right up there with Flynn on my list of fan fiction authors who are taken way to seriously.

lrdmonarch, Jul 9, 2005

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Boba_Fett_00 Jedi Master

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Why does Vader's suit look different in ANH
This is a very dumb question.

Boba_Fett_00, Jul 19, 2005

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indigoscorpion333 Jedi Youngling

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The only thing I noticed is that in ROTJ, Leia says she remembers her mom.

indigoscorpion333, Jul 19, 2005

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Boba_Fett_00 Jedi Master

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C3PO has the last line in ROTS and the first line in ANH, that's kinda cool.

Boba_Fett_00, Jul 21, 2005

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DINVADER99 Jedi Youngling

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Why does Vader's suit look different in ANH

Why does it look different from film to film, and sometimes scene to scene in the same film?

The only thing I noticed is that in ROTJ, Leia says she remembers her mom.

Which has been discussed a gazillion times. "Just images really...feelings."

DINVADER99, Jul 21, 2005

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Boba_Fett_00 Jedi Master

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Yeh really

Boba_Fett_00, Jul 22, 2005

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SPARKSIII Jedi Youngling

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I'm not sure if this is an editing mistake but when Obi-wan pilots his ship to the planet Utapua and visits with the representatives there and is informed about how they are held hostage by thousands of battle droids and there is a cut scene to one of General Greivous robot bodyguards and then it cuts to Obi-wan informing the dignitats to prepare for a fight Obi-wan jedi fighter ship is seen flying off with him in it and then there's a scene showing Obi-wan concealing himself behind a wall. Was that a hogographic image of Obi-wan portrayed flying the ship so as to deceive what he suspected were scouts spying on them?

SPARKSIII, Jul 24, 2005

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His droid was piloting.

Lt.Cmdr.Thrawn, Jul 25, 2005

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DarthBerzerker Jedi Youngling

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In the scene directly after Darth Vader kills the separatists, and is speaking to Emperor Palpatine in his office, the hologram appearing to Vader on Mustafar is that of a pre-deformed Palpatine. If you aren't looking for it, you might miss it since Palpatine is hooded in this scene, but upon viewing the film again a couple of days ago, it really stood out to me.

Other than that, Obi-Wan taking off his cloak before suprising General Grievous on Utaupa, then regaining it, and the same with Yoda losing and regaining his cloak after his battle with Palpatine, I found no other fault with the film.

DarthBerzerker, Jul 31, 2005

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Master_Jedi_Singh Jedi Youngling

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I think that happens because they have spares

Master_Jedi_Singh, Jul 31, 2005

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