My defense of George Lucas...

Discussion in 'Attack of the Clones' started by darthnuisance, Aug 13, 2002.

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  1. TokyoXtreme Force Ghost

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    DARTH MAUL INFLATABLE CHAIR
  2. Durwood Jedi Grand Master

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    Lucas isn't the only one to profit from liscensing, but he does seem like the only one who catches heat for it.

    It certainly is interesting, isn't it?
  3. Darth Geist Force Ghost

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    I haven't heard many complaints (if any) over the AOTC merchandising, but you've gotta admit the TPM blitz went a little over the top. Remember back when you couldn't swing your arms without hitting a talking Jar Jar or a Darth Maul/Qui-Gon/Obi-Wan collectible piggy bank set?

    Seriously, who needs three piggy banks? :p
  4. SWfan2002 Jedi Master

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    Hey, I liked seeing TPM stuff EVERYWHERE. It made SW seem even more popular than it really was. I was a little disappointed by the lack of all around hype for AOTC-- including not being surrounded by AOTC merchandise in every store. Oh well, the movie more than made up for it.
  5. ST-TPM-ASF-TNE Moderator Emeritus

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    I love my Darth Maul Inflatable chair :D
  6. SWfan2002 Jedi Master

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    It it weren't for the Darth Maul inflatable chairs, all of the fans lining up days in advance of TPM wouldn't have had anything to sit on!
  7. guittarjedi Jedi Master

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    Durwood's killfile? What's a killfile? Has Durwood been driven to murder?
  8. DrEvazan Jedi Youngling

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  9. flagg Jedi Knight

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    Have you guys seen Attack of the Clones? It's BRILLIANT!!!

    No one who calls themselves a Star Wars fan can not enjoy that film.
  10. ferelwookie Jedi Master

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    No one who calls themselves a Star Wars fan can not enjoy that film.

    Why not? I know plenty of Star Trek fans who hate Star Trek V.
  11. yodaschum Jedi Master

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    Is that the one with the whales or the one where Kirk gets framed for murder?
  12. AttackoftheCorn Jedi Knight

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    Good point Darth Geist, but the general idea of Lucas and his tyrannical merchandising empire was in existence before TPM.

    Again, just to use as an example, LOTR has fast food tie-ins, toys, watches, and multiple DVD sets. Also, the LOTR fan club, unlike the SW fan club, costs to join. Yet I have yet to read anything critical regarding LOTR or any other movie in terms of merchandising. A stark contrast indeed to SW.

    I have brought this up before and would really like to hear what everyone has to say :)
  13. Kryatt_Dragon Jedi Knight

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    I am not trying to start a SW vs. LOTR debate. This is just an example that Lucas isn't the only one to profit from liscensing, but he does seem like the only one who catches heat for it.

    I think it has more to do with the fact that Lucas used to be considered deserving of profit because he started out with a fairly well-respected franchise.

    Whereas now it appears that he no longer cares about quality and just wants to cash in.

    PJ may be cashing in too except that he's in the position where Lucas used to be and consequently considered more deserving.
  14. Kryatt_Dragon Jedi Knight

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    Good point Darth Geist, but the general idea of Lucas and his tyrannical merchandising empire was in existence before TPM.

    The idea was always there but I think it's fair to say it took on increased vigor when he released the special editions.
  15. yodaschum Jedi Master

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    YES KryattDragon. Thats exactly what I think. Also, when GL used to say that each movie took 3 years out of his life and took all his energy I used to think fair enough, because the films were good I could see why it took 3 years to do them. Now, with the PT, I wonder what on earth GL actually does in the course of 3 years. It seems more like it takes 3 years out of the ILM animators lives rather than his own. I wonder what he actually does other than just say "yeah thats good", "no thats not good", or "make it look like a water balloon".
  16. AttackoftheCorn Jedi Knight

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    "The idea was always there but I think it's fair to say it took on increased vigor when he released the special editions."

    Really? I honestly didn't know the special editions caused such a backlash. I wasn't as internet savvy back in 1997.

    Also, I am talking about even before that. If my memory is accurate, this has been going on since shortly after ANH.

  17. DrEvazan Jedi Youngling

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    i think the whole thing started with the ewoks, which many saw as a marketing ploy.
  18. baggles Jedi Master

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    Right , and if you think it started with the Ewoks, you either have no clue about marketing demographics, or have a very low opinion for the marketing execs that have been involved with SW.
  19. yodaschum Jedi Master

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    Time to resurrect this thread.

    I've been reading the AOTC novelisation.

    I have a hard time buying into the fact that the characters in AOTC are the same characters that were in TPM!

    Mainly, Nute Gunray. I didn't really appreciate that was Nute Gunray in AOTC until I read the novel. Even Obi Wan is not like the Obi Wan in the previous film. Padme, is totally different. I don't buy into her character at all.


    Never do I believe that they are in immediate danger. Even in the arena.

    If they die, so what? I don't care for these characters one bit.
  20. Jedi_Learner Jedi Grand Master

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    I've been reading the AOTC novelisation.

    Why read the book when you hate the film? You are very strange yodaschum.
  21. smauldookie Jedi Grand Master

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    "Why read the book when you hate the film? You are very strange yodaschum"

    cause the PT'S books are always better then the movie.

    god i can't wait to get my hands on SW EP-3 book in may,2005. :D
  22. DarthRaith Jedi Master

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    Thank you Jedi Learner, I dont understand you people that continually bash something but continue to read/watch/play it. If you dont care about these movies or the characters go watch Speed or Face Off of something, leave Star Wars to the fans.
  23. yodaschum Jedi Master

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    I read the book to get a better insight into the story, because the film sure as hell doesnt explain things properly, Jedi_Learner
  24. Jedi_Learner Jedi Grand Master

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    "I dont understand you people that continually bash something but continue to read/watch/play it."

    Sorry but I don't understand what you've just said. I only speak and read English. [Sorry DarthRaith, I misunderstood your post.]

    "I read the book to get a better insight into the story, because the film sure as hell doesnt explain things properly "

    According to you from an earlier post a few weeks back the movie has no story.

    [face_plain]
  25. yodaschum Jedi Master

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    Jedi_Learner, the film doesnt have any story, because GL cut half of it out. He didn't direct it very well either.
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