"My god, he's loose!" - Religion in the Star Wars universe...

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  1. Defiance Jedi Youngling

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    In the detention block scene in ANH, that's what one of the guards screams out when Chewie "breaks loose". I really have to wonder if this refers to a God like what we have here. I know, this is an obscure line, but it got me thinking. I've always thought that the Force was a pretty big religion in the Star Wars universe, but if people make these comments referring to God, maybe there is a big religion that believes in God. I've always known there was a concept of hell, but I never noticed this particular line. Any thoughts?
  2. sabo-wan Jedi Youngling

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    Hmmm...interesting. Lucas has said in the past that he always tried to make the Force very vague so that it could be interpreted widely, a sort of all-encompassing religion if you will.

    Within the GFFA, however, at least by the time of ANH, followers of the Force seem to be slim to none. Quotes from Han ("There's no mystical energy field that controls my destiny") and Tarkin ("You, my friend, are all that's left of their religion") support this, but others don't (General Dodonna "May the Force be with you."). So, I'm sure there probably ARE other belief systems within the spectrum of the GFFA, but we're never really introduced to them.
  3. Defiance Jedi Youngling

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    Yeah, and going off of that, if the Empire worked to discredit the Force and the Jedi (which seems to be plausible), would they have made another religion the state religion? Maybe belief in God was something the Empire instituted? This might be reading too much into one line, however.
  4. _ViE_AcheRoN_ Jedi Youngling

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    doesn't he scream "look out, he's loose"?
  5. BobTheGoon Moderator Emeritus

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    Yes he does. The original poster is hearing things, methinks.
  6. HanSolo29 Manager Emeritus + Official Star Wars Artist

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    Actually, the line is, "Look out! He's loose!" but I won't hold that against you. :p

    Anyway, about religion in the SW Universe - I would say other religions exist besides the Force, but we never really get a chance to witness them. But there are some subtle hints of it within the films themselves. For example, the references of Hell and if you want to really look deep into it, the Massassi temples on Yavin 4 were built around a religion. I believe they were used by the Massassi people to worship their gods.

    There's also more references to it within the EU, but I'm not really going to go into that here. :)
  7. Blackout Jedi Master

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    Either way, Han Solo says "Then I'll see you in Hell" [face_thinking]

    Although I'm sure that's not to be taken as a literal reference, just as a turn of phrase.

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  8. --Skywalker-- Jedi Youngling

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    oh yeah. you're right. But, Did GL change that in the DVDs?
  9. Defiance Jedi Youngling

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    OK, sorry people. I did mishear it and I thought it was either a change or I never noticed before. This is what I get for trying to watch the DVDs on laptop speakers. Even though I listened to the line twice, both times it sounded like "My God, he's loose."

    When I plugged in my real speakers, the sound is resolved properly. It is "Look out he's loose."

    Moral: I'll never make comments about sounds or dialog until I hear it on my THX certified sound system.

    I can't edit the title of the thread anymore. It's just dumb now.
  10. lord-darkhelmet Jedi Youngling

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    Ya, the line is "Look out, he's loose!"

    There are references to gods in the saga, but it seems to be reserved for more primitive cultures (ie. Ewoks and Gungans). I would expect that various cultures in the GFFA (as have the various cultures on Earth) develop their own belief systems over the years. However, I don't see a reason the Empire would institute a state religion; if anything the Empire seems to be centered on scientific beliefs. I got this impression from the dialog of the meeting of the Imperial officers on the Death Star in ANH. From this I suppose the Empire is basically a technocracy, with the exception of the Emperor who used his Force powers to maintain control, but didn't seem to publicly declare his Sith religious beliefs.
  11. Evil_Otto Jedi Youngling

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    Actually, the line is, "Look out! He's loose!" but I won't hold that against you.

    Yep, sorry Defiance, but it's as HanSolo29 said. And it wasn't one of the guards that shouts it, but rather Han Solo acting out his part as a Stormtrooper.
  12. Defiance Jedi Youngling

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    And it wasn't one of the guards that shouts it, but rather Han Solo acting out his part as a Stormtrooper.

    Really? It's very hard to tell. Wow, I had no idea.

    OK, I'm going to listen to it again.

    It does sound like Han. Where does it say definitively that it's him? Just curious.

    I think I'm hearing impaired now. I can't hear things properly anymore.
  13. Evil_Otto Jedi Youngling

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    It doesn't say that it's Solo shouting it, but I've always been able to tell it's Harrison Ford's voice from inside his Stormtrooper helmet.
  14. lord-darkhelmet Jedi Youngling

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    That line is Han's according to the script.
  15. Evil_Otto Jedi Youngling

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    That line is Han's according to the script.

    It probably varifies it's Han in my script for ANH in the book, The Art of Star Wars ANH, which has the full script for the film in the back.
  16. SITHlover Jedi Youngling

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    Don't forget "I'm altering the deal, PRAY I don't alter it any further" -Darth Vader, ESB.

    I think it's just common everyday phrases that find their way into the script.

    edit: spelling
  17. sith_rising Jedi Master

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    Just noticed something: during the detention block gunfight, did Chewies big rifle always make an "AT-AT" blaster sound? I remember it sounding like a regular rifle.
  18. Gilrod Jedi Master

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    In terms of religion in Star Wars, the Ewoks did think that C-3PO was some sort of god and the Gungans also had gods.

    C-3PO: "They think I'm some sort of god."

    Qui-Gon: "Your gods demand that he belongs to me now."
  19. EwokThatCried Jedi Padawan

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    Why would you accept so many worlds, races and cultures in the Star Wars universe and not accept there would be various religions among them?

    Remember, Lucas is a student of cultural and religious anthropology, myth and folklore... of course he's going to make these subtle references throughout the films.
  20. Yoda_Jedi_Luke Jedi Padawan

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    This was explained in an issue of Star Wars Magazine.

    The explanation to Solo's Hell line was that there are millions of individual religions in the Star Wars universe, and Corellia has about 9 just located on that planet. So, with the mater that Solo was apparently raised by space gypsies, he has a varied view of religions, hence his scepticism of the Force.

    And, of course, the B'omarr monks believe in their God/Gods
  21. JediCourier Jedi Padawan

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    a) The line is "look out, he's loose" and yes it is Han
    b) "My god" implies *a* god, but not "the" God
    c) In the ewok films, Catarine Towani screams simply "God!" as she sees her Cindel standing on a precipice with the Gorax behind her, meaning the reference was actually to the Judeo-Christian god.
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