My insight of how the YJCC is running over the past year... (Take it Seriously)

The problem we will always have with the JCC from here until the very end is defining those gray areas of what is and is not appropriate. When you have a messageboard as popular as this one, as diverse a userbase from around the world, subjectivity will most certainly come into play. Family-friendly is subjective as well as what is appropriate. This sexual trend in the JCC seems kind of like the JCC has always been. I see things a bit more opposite than the thread author does. I've seen a great deal of effort from the JCC mods past and present as far as becoming consistent, communicating more effectively between one another, and conslidating certain topics into one thread that otherwise would overtake the place. One such thread is the Fecal Force. For the most part, the JCC successfully operates in that PG/PG-13 range. Like anywhere, users will try to push it too far. Nowhere is this more true than the JCC. But with the visibility of that forum, it doesn't last too long.

 

I see your point.

There was a time when the Fecal Force type threads were all over the place. It was condensed into one thread and the poop lol pretty much stays there.

Couldn't the same be done here? I did at one point suggest to a YJCC moderator [which one escapes me at the moment] that it would be great to have a thread where all discussion on various body parts goes. Because we don't really need 3 different threads on boobies, et al now do we?

 

Wasn't the FF introduced because lots of people were getting annoyed at the poop invasion? I don't recall it being the brainchild of a mod. It became 'official', but I don't think it was spawned by anything other than 'public opinion'. Plus, everyone who wanted to discuss such matters seemed quite happy to set up poop camp in the FF thread. It was a way to control a fad that suited everyone.

I don't think there's any such overwhelming desire to see threads on boobs to be amalgamated. There isn't (that I can see) a distinct group of users intent on discussing boobs in the same way as there was a distinct group of users intent on discussing poop. It was poop thread this and poop thread that... and I don't see many threads specifically focused on boobs. Threads that feature boobs aren't a fad really, they're just an ongoing fact of JCC life.

So no we don't need multiple threads on boobs, but we also don't need, for the sake of the JCC, to compress them all together.

 

So, we won't be having the mother of all boob threads then?

 

I may be mistaken, but I think those who wanted to discuss poop in multiple threads were a minority, so how about one "boob-free" thread for all those who dislike them?

With that said, I bet that condensing all the people who are of one mindset (and most likely the minority) into one thread suddenly isn't seen as a good idea by some folks.

There is nothing "immoral" about bikinis or swimsuits. They are on the covers of magazines, on countless TV shows, and even all over the beaches. The only things that might be "immoral" about bikinis are the thoughts that some people get when they see them - that isn't something the moderators here can control. If you feel uneasy around pictures of bikinis, don't click on a thread about bikinis and swimsuits. There are countless threads that I ignore, simply because they do not interest me. As with many things in life, I think some people need to take more personal responsibility for their own actions, and stop expecting society to change things just because you personally disagree. Live your life however you want, but don't expect everyone to conform to your views, because they won't.

 

Actaully I think the YJCC has been running better in the past six months than it has in ages.

I've seen very few inappropriate things. Girls in bikins are not inappropriate- it's the human body.

The words penis and vagina are not bad words- shame on those who think they are.

All users are required to be over thirteen. If they are then they've heard much worse stuff at school.

 

Here is an good idea. For anything that violates "family-friendly" situation should all be retained in one thread and on the title, they should put something like for Aduits or Mature people only or something like that... Anything else that lurks around the JCC and doesn't have a tag to hold such info should have that thread locked and the author "punished" for their actions. That might help level the questions still rising over it.

 

You're still missing the fact that your definition of "family friendly" differs with the one used by the moderators. As things currently are, anything that isn't family friendly is edited out, so adding a thread for "non-family friendly" material would actually make the content of the JCC worse.

 

Legion, i think your just talking bull. You seem not to understand, that this is the internet, and im sure that any of the users will find any offensive materials by simply searching on Google. I think that the Mods are doing a great job and what you've already stated in this thread, isn't going to change it and if you dont like it, you can sling yer hook.

 

First of all it is quite apparent our views as well as everyones views clash significently to decide what is family-friendly. And also a third maybe half or more of the JCC would be wiped out by that line of thought. I believe the JCC is doing quite well but going on a boob genocide probably wouldn't bode well with many users.

-The Scummy-

 

I agree, it's not the JCC that clicks on a thread but it's the user and thread titles usually already indicate this. So if somebody was shocked about the contents of a thread, he or she should start to wonder why they choose to enter this thread.

If parents dont want their kids to see bikini girls on the JCC (or the web in general), they should also keep him away from the tv as well because the average video clip on Mtv has more bikini in it then can be seen on a summer day in Honolulu, or keep him away from the local newpaper, it might have a picture of a swimmer in her bathing suit who won a gold medal somewhere. Point is, it shouldnt be necassary to create a problem when there isnt one. Certain images are everywhere in daily life and the JCC doesnt have to be an exception to those images. (the same goes for talk about certain subjects of course)

To archieve consistency in deciding what is appropriate and allowed and what is not is rather difficult. No picture is the same, no statement is the same. The only thing that basicly remains the same is the common sense that (most) of us luckily possess. And I can only say that the MS uses their common sense when they make this judgement, I have never been troubled by any of their decisions regarding something like this.

No you cant rhonderoo, but you'll make a lot of us VERY happy

(sorry just had to say that)

 

do you honestly think just because they put "Adults or Mature People Only" in a thread title thats going to stop curious people from looking in there? it won't. as for the punishing the authors of the threads that are still out there if it was made before the one "adults or mature people only" thread they can't be held accountable if a mod doesn't decide to lock it up. now if they make a thread like that after they could be punished if a policy is ever put in place which i don't think will happen

 

You know what I'd think of if I saw a thread labeled "Adults or Mature People Only"? I'm going to think that is the perfect place to troll with porn, tubgirl, or anything that one typically trolls with being put into that one thread. I'll also expect use of language beyond whats typically allowed.

Besides what are you going to do if someone under the age of 18 posts in that particular thread? Ask them to leave? I'm not sure how many mods or even users are goign to look at everyones profile to make sure that said users are above 18. Personally I think the JCC is just fine as is and I see no reason to go conservative, afterall this is just the internet.

 

Besides that, it would be extremely easy for me to change my age in my profile.

-The Scummy-

 

Sorry, an Adults-only thread is not going to happen, for all of the reasons listed above.

 

Well, this is a very touchy subject for people. Sex terms such as "penis" and

"vagina" are commonly accepted by society. "Masturbation", though

controversial in some cases, is also commonly accpeted. Where is the line

drawn between "familay-friendly" and "nff"? Ahrd to tell, but think about it.

Topics such as "Safe Sex: How to protect your self from STD's, unwated

pregnancy, etc." are, by standards "ff"

Topics like "I have a sore on my penis. Should I be worried?" are a bit grey.

They can be family friendly as long as the discussion remains mature.

Topics like "My penis just grew sixteen inches" would qualify under "nff"

Threads asking when/how did you lose your virginity are TECHNICALLY family

friendly, if you look at it right. It's asking when and where you lost it,

basically.

Alot of carmenite's threads were on sexual topics, all of which were family

friendly. Again, it's a grey area, but the line is has to be drawn.

Oh, and about your "most families" comment; maybe your parent's and your

friend's parents are like that, but a great majority of people in the US and

around the world don't give two cares about it. I don't know what rock you've

been living under, but ti's time to get out and look around the world. It's

changed, for sure. For better or worse, is for you to decide.

Point: Within reason and as long as proper medical terms are sed and such,

it's family friendly, like it or not. I don't know where you got that "sex =

teh uber badnessz0rz", but I think that person needs a dose of reality.

And you need to get out and look around public schools. Really, sex

EVERYWHERE.

On a final note - The age of consent in the US isn't under 16. It's 18,

last I heard.



heh, it's like that cause I finished writing it in note pad. Sorry

 

You heard Wrong:
Male/Female, Male/Male Fermale/Female


USA Alabama Rev 06/2001 16 illegal illegal
USA Alaska 16 16 16
USA Arizona Rev 06/2001 18 Law Repealed Law Repealed
USA Arkansas Rev 03/2001 16 Law Invalidated Law Invalidated
USA California Rev 04/2001 18 18 18
USA Colorado Rev 04/2002 15/17 17 17
USA Connecticut
Rev 04/2001 16 16 16
USA D.C. Rev 08/2000 16 Law Repealed Law Repealed
USA Delaware Rev 03/2002 16/18 Law Repealed Law Repealed
USA Florida Rev 06/2001 16/18 Illegal Illegal
USA Georgia 16 16 16
USA Hawaii Rev 03/2002 16 Law Repealed Law Repealed
USA Idaho Rev 04/2001 16/18 Illegal Illegal
USA Illinois 17 17 17
USA Indiana 16 16 16
USA Iowa Rev 03/2002 14/16 Law Repealed Law Repealed
USA Kansas Rev 06/2001 16 illegal illegal
USA Kentucky 16 Law Invalidated Law Invalidated
USA Louisiana Rev 03/2002 17 Illegal Illegal
USA Maine 16 16 16
USA Maryland Rev 04/2002 16 Law Invalidated Law Invalidated
USA Massachusetts -Law Invalidated READ -Law Invalidated
USA Michigan Rev 04/2001 16 Illegal Illegal
USA Minnesota Rev 03/2002 16 Law Invalidated Law Invalidated
USA Mississippi
Rev 03/2002 16 Illegal Illegal
USA Missouri 14/17 Illegal Illegal
USA Montana 16/18 18 18
USA Nebraska 17 Law Repealed Law Repealed
USA Nevada Rev 1/2000 16 18 18
USA New Hampshire 16 18 18
USA New Jersey 16 16 16
USA New Mexico 17 13 13
USA New York Rev 03/2002 17 17 17
USA North Carolina
Rev 03/2002 16 Illegal Illegal
USA North Dakota 18 Law Repealed Law Repealed
USA Ohio Rev 11/2000 16 Law Repealed Law Repealed
USA Oklahoma Rev 03/2002 16 16 -illegal??? 16 -illegal???
USA Oregon 18 18 18
USA Pennsylvania 16 16 16
USA Rhode Island 16 Law Repealed Law Repealed
USA South Carolina 14/16 Illegal Illegal
USA South Dakota 16 Law Repealed 16 Law Repealed 16
USA Tennessee Rev 04/2001 18 Law Invalidated Law Invalidated
USA Texas Rev 03/2002 17 Illegal 03/2001 Illegal 03/2001
USA Utah Rev Rev 04/2001 16/18 Illegal Illegal
USA Vermont 16 Law Repealed Law Repealed
USA Virginia Rev 07/2000 18 illegal illegal
USA Washington 16/18 16/18
USA West Virginia 16 18? 18?
USA Wisconsin Rev 03/2002 18 18 18
USA Wyoming 16 / 18? Law Repealed Law Repealed


Age of consent.com

 

No, he heard differently Some of those states, he's right. Some, he's wrong.

 

I had what I thought was a very appropriate (sex-related) thread, and not only was it locked, but all the content was removed. That was a decision the mods made, and I respected that decision. Any mod can read in my user notes exactly what I wrote.

So, I would say no, the mods are not letting sex threads go crazy there.

 

Well, Breezy, here in the Bay State it's 18...in some places it's 16 or 17. SO it varies

 

The JC has always carried the tag of "family friendly" and overall nothing that is in the JCC has really changed over the years. Some things are more common, some things less, but the level has remained about the same. The tag itself has also always avoided definition because there is no way in which you can define it. You have families with standards that spread from the most strict conservative all the way through to ultra-liberal, and no definition will suit them. Previously as a guideline the "Simpsons Rule" was used so that people had an idea of what you could and couldn't use, if it was something that you'd see in an episode of The Simpsons then you'd be safe here. Over time that has altered as what is used on the show has changed, and what has been allowed by the varying moderating teams has changed, but the ideal is still valid enough for those who are wanting more than an ephemeral tag. If you can see it on general prime-time with no required warnings, then it would be safe. If it is freely available for purchase by someone without having to produce a proof-of-age card, then it's fine.

And if you see something that you don't think fits, say something to a moderator. If they disagree with you, then do what the rest of us do with threads that we don't like and don't go back into them or their like.

I might end up regretting saying this, but it's a little bit of a case of the pot calling the kettle black. Different moderators have different "styles" of dealing with people, and more often than not the same label you've just attached to malkie has been attached to yourself. And over time it has been attached to nearly every moderator who has taken hardline stances in here so how about trying to retain some dignity and not take the childish pot-shots at the administration that lead to the rest of us being tarred with the "bitter ex-mod" tag?

 

my insight of how the YJCC is running over the past year is that bikinis are the spawn of satan personified into fat tissue, preying on the weak and devouring souls. and we wonder why todays youth is corrupt? why violence is on the increase? no respect for parents? it is the bikini! the woman and her foul fat tissue that lies beneath! it is e-flirtation between members of the opposite sex! the jcc is the schooling house for the damned... (Don't take it Seriously)

 

lol


I think there are enough rules here on posting this and that, if someone posts anything remotely innapropriate they are publicly spanked... I travel these boards far and wide and thats all I see.


As far as the free speech/naked intellectual talk? Just don't get raunchy with it, besides, like everyone has said it's amazing what kids say these days any way.


I know, lets get some JC mods together and have them administer all the bad parents out there. That way they won't have bad kids who get neck-id all the time.

Yaaayyyy!!!

 

as much as I think the original post was a bit...OTT, i have to agree that YJCC is very slowly coming out of it's "family friendly" territory.

do we really need a thread on "midget porn" for example?