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Amph [NERRRD] Observations, rhetorical questions, comments & 55 Years of Star Trek (General Thread)

Discussion in 'Community' started by Darth Guy, Jun 10, 2009.

  1. jabberwalkie

    jabberwalkie Jedi Master star 4

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    I liked the Judge's sentence speech personally, but that one is definitely not bad. Go to around 1:25.
     
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  2. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Chosen One star 8

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    Bring back the Judge and the Rura Penthe warden and just have them make very Klingon-y dire pronouncements. That's at least an episode.
     
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  3. jabberwalkie

    jabberwalkie Jedi Master star 4

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    Just bring back the Klingons of the Prime Universe. Give them the depth they had in DS9 and The Undiscovered Country.
     
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  4. Darth Guy

    Darth Guy Chosen One star 10

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    Good news! The series will have a subtitle, to be unveiled later. Thank God.
     
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  5. TX-20

    TX-20 Force Ghost star 4

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    Star Trek: The Continuing Missions
     
  6. PCCViking

    PCCViking Chosen One star 10

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    If I remember correctly, the Klingons and the Federation didn't really solidify their alliance until the Enterprise C sacrificed itself against the Romulans.
     
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  7. Darth_Voider

    Darth_Voider Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    But we already saw conflicts with Klingons and Romulans in the previous series and movies. Same with Cardassians. I still think it would be rather a retreat of familiar storylines than something fresh and new. They also have to use the ship designs we know from the TOS-TNG era (which was mostly the same we saw in the first six movies) to avoid continuity inconsistencies.

    Just my opinion, but I believe the best way to introduce us to strange new worlds, unknown lifeforms and new civilizations is to have the new series to be set in the post-Nemesis period. And regarding the "classic" aliens like Vulcans, Klingons, Romulans and Cardassians: The destruction of Romulus would provide us a new dynamic in the relationships between these galactic powers.

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  8. dp4m

    dp4m Chosen One star 10

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    Star Trek: We're Sorry...
     
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  9. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    The post-TUC is still a different dynamic- we're post-treaty but still pre-Besties. Same species true, but that different dynamic could affect other or new species.

    As for the ship designs, in perfectly ok with that, considering we never saw a Constitution Refit in a series and that design aesthetic could still be used to introduce new support craft designs.

    That said, I'd love to see them tackle post-Nemesis/post-Romulus eventually too.
     
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  10. Mustafar_66

    Mustafar_66 Force Ghost star 6

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    You say that like it's a bad thing.
     
  11. Darth_Voider

    Darth_Voider Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Oh, I don't think the TOS-TNG designs are bad, I actually like them. It's just that I would prefer to see something new. Same with the time period itself. There may be some interesting stories to tell, but I was always more interested in the post-Nemesis period than the post-TUC/pre-TNG period.

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  12. Mustafar_66

    Mustafar_66 Force Ghost star 6

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    Story line wise yes, I'd prefer post-Nemesis but as far as the ships go I prefer the movie era stuff. If we can have a buttload of Miranda's, Excelsior's and refit Constitutions and stuff modelled on them then great!
     
  13. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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  14. jabberwalkie

    jabberwalkie Jedi Master star 4

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  15. dp4m

    dp4m Chosen One star 10

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    There's no way that lawsuit is "going away" as is claimed without significant changes by the Axanar team... they were physically making money off of the fan-film, which is why the lawsuit was there in the first place...
     
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  16. jabberwalkie

    jabberwalkie Jedi Master star 4

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    While I understand where you are coming from (IP copyright claim), I'm not sure that I see much difference between Renegades and Axanar in how they gathered their funds for the films. They also both have/had Star Trek alums involved with them. And both used various elements of Star Trek that are copyrighted.
     
  17. dp4m

    dp4m Chosen One star 10

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    You can't make a profit off of someone else's IP. That's the cut off. Axanar, the people making it were taking a salary from the crowd-sourced funds. Fan films can't make money, nor can you profit off of the IP.
     
  18. jabberwalkie

    jabberwalkie Jedi Master star 4

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    Again, I'm not sure I necessarily see the difference between Renegades and Axanar in that regard. Especially since Renegades seemingly got a pass on that AFAIK. Unless they didn't pay anyone on that project.
     
  19. dp4m

    dp4m Chosen One star 10

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    Sorry, you can probably pay the people in it -- but you, the creator, can't be paid for making it. Which is where Axanar fails. Also, that they're setting up their studio based on Axanar to make future films and profit off of Axanar. Big no-nos.
     
  20. jabberwalkie

    jabberwalkie Jedi Master star 4

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    Again, that was also the expressed intent of the Renegades kickstarter and indiegogo campaigns. And it got a pass.
     
  21. slidewhistle

    slidewhistle Jedi Knight star 3

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    New Star Trek Continues episode today:

    The guest star is Gigi Edgley, Chiana from Farscape.
     
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  22. Kenneth Morgan

    Kenneth Morgan Chosen One star 5

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    Happy Birthday to...

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  23. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    http://www.darkhorizons.com/news/43387/-star-trek-scribes-join-fuller-s-new-series

    Joe Menosky (TNG, DS9, VOY writer), Aron Coliete (Ultimate X-Men) & Kirsten Beyer (author of some Voyager novels) are joining the writing staff of the new series as well,

    Menosky in particular wrote several notable episodes including Darmok, Time's Arrow, The Chase, The Thaw, Future's End, Scorpion, Distant Origin, Year of Hell, The Killing Game and others.

    It's funny, yesterday this model arrived:

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    And it got me thinking how a 29th Century timeship like that would make for the perfect framing device for a Trek anthology show since you could send an agent to any era of Trek for a show or season and then send another to a different era the next time (but hopefully avoid a Sulliban/Future Guy temporal Cold War complication and keep it more to an observational angle- this way the show would be using time travel to tell stories and not using the show to tell time travel stories.).

    And then here they go hiring a writer who wrote at least two notable time travel 2-parters, including the one that introduced the time travel organization from the 29th century...
     
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  24. Chancellor_Ewok

    Chancellor_Ewok Chosen One star 7

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    So basically Doctor Who wrapped in Star Trek? That sounds like a really good idea.
     
  25. Sarge

    Sarge Chosen One star 10

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    Did Menosky alone write Time's Arrow? I always got the impression that one was written by a committee. No, that was not a compliment.