Amph [NERRRD] Observations, rhetorical questions, comments & 55 Years of Star Trek (General Thread)

The Nemesis battle could have been great, but there were too many things that didn't add up. Enterprise is running for home suspecting pursuit, so why traverse a nebula? Those things slow you down when you're in a hurry. I was hoping Picard was going to be smart and scan for the wake of the cloaked ship as it moved thru the gas clouds, but not one of these super science minded officers ever thought to do that. And then there's the Reman ship: impenetrable shields, unprecedented firepower, perfect cloak, planet wrecking superweapon, and faster than Enterprise. Totally ridiculous munchkin ship. Oh, and it was built in secret by slaves working in a mine. Riiiiight!

 

I hate the overpowered, nonsensical supership trope in the past three Trek films. And IIRC, Nemesis was going to have multiple Starfleet ships in the fight, but the effects budget didn't cover it so they had to contrive some reason the ships weren't there.

 

Far too many plot holes surrounding Shinzon and the Scimitar that could have used at least a little explaining, but despite that Nemesis is still a good film.

 

Yeah. I've heard that story too about other parts of Nemesis. According to Brent Spiner, Picard and Data stealing a fighter and shooting their way out of the Scimitar was originally going to be two minute set piece action sequence..

 

I just did a Google search. I haven't read it, so I can't help you out regarding what all was cut.

http://www.imsdb.com/scripts/Star-Trek-Nemesis.html

 

I had the weirdest dream that I was watching Star Trek: TMP last night. I haven't seen that film in almost 15 years, so I suppose I should re-watch it at some point.

 

WORF: Romulan ale should be illegal.

GEORDI: It is, old chum.

WORF: Then it should be more illegal.

 

The alcohol content, or the Romulan equivalent must be pretty potent to make everyone feel like they've been on a bender. I can imagine one of the early Starfleet ships being severely damaged because of a Romulan Ale hangover.

 

Why not just watch this guy's Youtube video instead? He retells TMP with action figures and other toys using the audio from the old read-along book and record/cassette that was made back in the day. He also did this for TWOK and TSFS (Which I guess were the only Trek films to get this treatment), and the SW films as well. Really neat and LOL.

 

God, I'm glad that was cut. Since when does Geordi say "old chum"? Is that script for real? If so, the writer is even more of an idiot than the finished film made me think.

 

"I am not a merry old chum man!"

 

I seriously question whether or not writer John Logan watched TNG.

 

I think he confused "Geordi" with "Geordie" and assumed the character was an English stereotype. You know, like how in TOS a Scotsman is named "Scotty."

 

Oh that Nexus....what a pest. Made me enjoy Christmas, meet Captain Kirk, and everything.

Uh..... rly?

 

Good one, Number One. Question is, can she feel his loins?

 

Would Nemesis have done better if it came out in the summer?

 

A major problem was that it came out within a week of The Two Towers, so it probably would have done better with another release date. However, its biggest problem was that it sucked.

 

Worf's response is hilarious, having said that, I'm fine with them cutting the Klingon penis joke.

 

So Emissary's stardate places it between the Chain of Command two parter and Ship in a Bottle. Interesting! Wonder if Picard had deja vu during the visit to DS9 because of his recent imprisonment by a Cardassian.

It'll be a good while before I get to it, but I have read that the frame story in ENT's finale, "These are the Voyages..." is set during the events of "The Pegasus" in TNG. Better to watch TATV on it's own, or in conjunction with "The Pegasus"? Does it really matter?

 

If I remember, Bringing Down the House was a pretty huge hit that month.