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Amph [NERRRD] Observations, rhetorical questions, comments & 50 Years of Star Trek (General Thread)

Discussion in 'Community' started by Darth Guy, Jun 10, 2009.

  1. Chancellor_Ewok

    Chancellor_Ewok Force Ghost star 7

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    Yeah, because Seven/Chakotay was just LOLwhat? Voyager didn't really need another romantic subplot since it already had two, or one and a half at any rate in Kes/Neelix and Tom/B'elanna
     
  2. PCCViking

    PCCViking Chosen One star 10

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    I was watching Scorpion Part II, and Seven of Nine mentioned that she was assimilated 18 years prior to that episode. I don't have the exact dates with me, but that would imply that some in the Federation/Starfleet knew about the Borg before Q flung the Enterprise in "Q Who."

    Does that go back to the fact about the Borg's presence in First Contact and Enterprise?
     
  3. Darth Guy

    Darth Guy Chosen One star 10

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    Seven of Nine's history makes no sense given that yes, the Fedration's first known encounter with the Borg was in "Q Who?" There are convoluted, unsatisfying explanations for how and why the Hansens went to study the Borg, but the simple answer is that the writers ****ed up.
     
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  4. I Are The Internets

    I Are The Internets Force Ghost star 8

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    Is there a species that's more intimidating than the Borg? That makes the Borg feel threatened? Asking for a friend who's writing a sequel series...
     
  5. Diggy

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    At the age of four, her parents were given the USS Raven by Starfleet to help them investigate the presence of an unknown species in deep space. This trip lasted for three years during which time they encountered the Borg and using a transwarp conduit, followed a cube to the Delta Quadrant. Annika's father developed technology to allow the ship to remain undetected by the aliens, and even to allow them to board the Borg vessel. But after an ion storm struck the vessel, the Borg detected the family and assimilated them.[25]


    Now why they weren't communicating with Starfleet, I assume can be explained by the distance.
     
  6. Chancellor_Ewok

    Chancellor_Ewok Force Ghost star 7

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    Spieces 8472
     
  7. Alpha-Red

    Alpha-Red Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Hmm, so I keep hearing other people say that his voice is instantly recognizable in MLP:FiM, but when I hear his character speak I'm not really picking it up.
     
  8. dp4m

    dp4m Chosen One star 10

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    It's way, way more recognizable in Planescape:Torment...
     
  9. Chancellor_Ewok

    Chancellor_Ewok Force Ghost star 7

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    Really? Discord, for all intents and purposes, is Q in a different form and yes his voice is instantly recognizable.
     
  10. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Also, as a heads-up since it's of Trek interest, Orville premieres sunday.

    I guess it's just that they spent so much time showing/saying there wasn't anything between them anymore beyond the close-friends/Imzadi thing, that to suddenly flip the switch back on didn't work for me (and being introduced in Insurrection didn't help any ;)).

    Now, if it had been Thomas Riker? Different situation.
     
  11. PCCViking

    PCCViking Chosen One star 10

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    By then, Thomas would have been a little busy...being a prisoner of the Cardassians for his role in the Maquis. ;)
     
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  12. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Details. ;)
     
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  13. Darth Guy

    Darth Guy Chosen One star 10

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    Kinda sucked that DS9 never resolved that. Presumably he was murdered by the Dominion same as all the other Maquis.

    Yes, yes, I know there's something about him in the non-canon relaunch novels or whatever.
     
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  14. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    His death isn't a certainty- for all we know the cleansing of the Marquis wasn't enacted upon existing prison camps, only forces in the wild. Plenty of space for him to slip through the cracks.

    Could actually make for a good post-Nemesis story. Thomas escaping prison or being rescued 20+ years later. Especially if it was by the Titan and Riker.

    Man could be very bitter about losing yet another long stretch of his life- and to find the previously single Troi married Riker after all would be salt on the wound.
     
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  15. Chancellor_Ewok

    Chancellor_Ewok Force Ghost star 7

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    I like that idea. That sounds like a great premise for a Star Trek novel.
     
  16. Diggy

    Diggy Force Ghost star 7

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    Then Will and Thomas have to team up against their mirror versions.
     
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  17. slidewhistle

    slidewhistle Jedi Knight star 3

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    at the denevan trombone throwdown
    where the baddest bones with the sickest tones
    delight your ears every four earth years
    when they meet up for a showdown
     
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  18. Juliet316

    Juliet316 JCC Game Winner star 10 VIP - Game Winner

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  19. Chancellor_Ewok

    Chancellor_Ewok Force Ghost star 7

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    Well, it was certainly a slap to Connor Trinneer, Trip's idiotic death scene, anyone?
     
  20. Juliet316

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    I was kind of okay with Trip's death, I wish it hadn't been ruined by Troi forshadowing it.
     
  21. DebonaireNerd

    DebonaireNerd Jedi Master star 5

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    I regret watching it, Brannon.
     
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  22. BigAl6ft6

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    These Are the Voyages kind of works better if you watch it in conjunction with The Pegasus. I mean, like, going full bore act break cut between the episodes. I believe it's TATV opening scene, Pegasus opening scene, and TATV is done before they get stuck in the asteroid field. Yes, Troi and Riker age in between scene is jarring but literally viewing it as an extra long episode addition to Pegasus works.

    Besides, I've gone to view Demons / Tera Prime as the true Enterprise finale, and it's actually pretty great. Peter Weller!!! (I no prize that Paxton a descendant of Admiral Marcus meself. Or maybe Marcus is Paxton's clone, he seemed like that much of a jerk)

    Actually, it is. Peter David's Imazdi II. Sequel book to his Imzadi. the first one I totally view as canon anyway, gives the most info on Riker/Troi and the Guardian of Forever is in it!

    As for Generations griping, well, I do enjoy the movie as it seems the most like a TNG episode (not a great one but a good one) and there are some awesome scenes. But killing Kirk? Nope, nada. Dopey. Bad way to say "the TOS movies are over" by flat out killing him. Shoulda survived and gotten picked up by Bones and Spock. Although, to be fair, the movie bakes in the theme of death quite a lot so at least it's not a thematic cheat.
     
  23. Kenneth Morgan

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    Actually, there are several books (co-written by Shatner) where Kirk is resurrected. It gets a bit complicated.
     
  24. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Force Ghost star 6

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    Yeah I read The Return eons ago, although my gripe isn't bringing Kirk back to life (It's Star Trek, there's hundreds of ways to even get him on Discovery) it's that they killed him in the first place. I find it hard to believe Kirk could die anyway. He cheats death and changes the rules, dammit.
     
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  25. Darth_Voider

    Darth_Voider Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Kirk is just a human after all.

    I admit that I cried when I first saw Kurk's death scene. But I have come to accept it.

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