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Amph [NERRRD] Observations, rhetorical questions, comments & 50 Years of Star Trek (General Thread)

Discussion in 'Community' started by Darth Guy, Jun 10, 2009.

  1. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Sometimes the ships don't survive the shipping ;). At least I can enjoy it as something the ship was technically capable of doing while I await a replacement (actually the second replacement- the first one arrived with an intact saucer but was missing the deflector dish, heh).

    Didn't he say previously that it was intended to be a season finale, not a series finale?
     
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  2. Darth Caliban

    Darth Caliban Jedi Knight star 4

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    I liked him in Season 1 - 3. Later he became too stern imo. A bit like he and Picard exchanged character traits.
     
  3. Cowgirl Jedi 1701

    Cowgirl Jedi 1701 Jedi Master star 4

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    That's not weird, though. When people spend a lot of time together, they rub off on each other. It's totally normal.
     
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  4. PCCViking

    PCCViking Force Ghost star 10

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    As Q said, he wasn't like that before the beard. :p
     
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  5. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Force Ghost star 6

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    Netflix (the non North American broadcasters of Star Trek: Discovery, although Netflix Canada does have everything except Discovery) just dropped their most-rewatched Star Trek episodes ever. Top 10 are all Voyager and Next Generation. The #1 is kinda surprising, I guess everyone wanted to skip to the end and see how it ended (or rewatch the last 4 minutes when they make it home). But, seriously, 8 of these are Borg-centric, basically. 8! People love the Borg!

    https://media.netflix.com/en/press-...re-revealing-star-trek-fans-favorite-episodes

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  6. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Who is watching Clues that much?

    Time and Again I sorta understand- it's basically a TNG episode and within the early series viewing window for newbies, but still, above so many other episodes? Strange.
     
  7. DebonaireNerd

    DebonaireNerd Jedi Master star 5

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    NOTHING from DS9? Not even In The Pale Moonlight made it to the top ten?
     
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  8. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Force Ghost star 6

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    Of note, this is a *rewatch* list according to Netflix so maybe people rewatch "Clues" to see if they missed any?

    1 through 8 are basically all varying degrees of Borg-centric episodes so that I kinda get. Like I said, people love The Borg!

    Voyager S1 E3 also seems like an odd one too, there is a lot of run off from "Caretaker" in there wherein the Maquis and Starfleet are still at odds and adjusting so probably more info dump from the pilot (honestly, I think I watched that episode once. when it was broadcast)

    I am downright stumped that TNG classics All Good Things or Yesterday's Enterprise aren't up there.
     
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  9. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I'd have thought one of either Sacrifice of Angels (SPAAACESHIPS!), Trials & Tribble-ations (TOS), Way of the Warrior (Worf, Klingons), Duet (early but great), Pale Moonlight (late but great), Jem'Hadar (the "go here to skip the first two seasons" recommendation) or Past Tense (time travel) would have ranked. I mean, I get that "Fan Collectives: The Borg" will edge out pretty much everything else, but still, Clues?!

    And, again, with Voyager- Time and Again over Year of Hell or The Killing Game?
     
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  10. Chancellor_Ewok

    Chancellor_Ewok Force Ghost star 7

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    Or Timeless or Equinox, and they kind of cheated on top of that too.They ranked both parts of Endgame and Dark Frontier as one episode each but not Scorpion or BOBW.
     
  11. True Sith

    True Sith Jedi Knight star 4

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    The Gift kind of makes sense I guess, since it directly follows Scorpion. Clues and Time and Again though...what the heck. Not exactly the most well known entries of their respective series.
     
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  12. Darth Caliban

    Darth Caliban Jedi Knight star 4

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    Wonder what would have happened if "Second Chances" was a Season 1 Episode. I guess Riker would have been a lot nicer and more understanding to his "brother".
     
  13. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Endgame and DF originally aired as a feature-length episode, not as a two-parter, so that's probably the distinction.
     
  14. I Are The Internets

    I Are The Internets Force Ghost star 8

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    No All Good Things?!
     
  15. Darth Guy

    Darth Guy Chosen One star 10

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    Fuller House is the most-watched show on Netflix. I wouldn't take the popularity of certain episodes too seriously.
     
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  16. darth-sinister

    darth-sinister Manager Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Yeah, but even Kirk should have limits at some point. That for all his cunning and ingenuity, his luck would eventually run out. Besides, Kirk would rather die trying to save the galaxy than as an old man in bed.
     
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  17. I Are The Internets

    I Are The Internets Force Ghost star 8

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    His death scene is so weirdly acted in Generations though, and even the writers admitted to this.
     
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  18. Gamiel

    Gamiel Force Ghost star 6

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    Voyager was my frst ST series and I have found memories of it, even if I did not watch the later seasons so I can't comment on them
     
  19. Zeta1127

    Zeta1127 Jedi Master star 5

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    I remember VOY and ENT the best, since they are were the most recent. Though BBC America refreshed my memory of a fair amount of TNG and a bit of TOS last year, so I unfortunately don't remember much of DS9 at the moment.
     
  20. Sarge

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    I'm a little jealous. You get to see DS9 like a new show. Take the time; it's worth it.
     
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  21. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Force Ghost star 6

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    Shatner improvised the "Oh my." line. It was scripted as "It was fun." as his final words. On the really informative and oddly hilarious "Generations" commentary track Brannon Bragga and Ron Moore say the "Oh my" makes it seem like Kirk went to Hell at the very end.

    What he said.
     
  22. CT-867-5309

    CT-867-5309 Force Ghost star 6

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    He shouldn't have been alive after the fall. We should have just looked down on his lifeless broken body from above, and that's all. A bit of reality could have gone a long way.

    To be real, though, I LOVED his "death" earlier in the movie on the Enterprise B. It brought tears to my eyes then, and it still did when I watched it about a month ago. That should have been his actual death, it was perfect.
     
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  23. Alpha-Red

    Alpha-Red Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Oh yeah, I remembered the Borg with their scary cubes from what little I saw as a kid. Then, much later on, when I decided to load up "Best of Both Worlds" because obviously I had to watch it, I see the Enterprise crew walking around inside the cube with the Borg completely ignoring them...and then when actual combat occurred they just stood there and let themselves get shot at like zombies...yeah, I was kinda disappointed.
     
  24. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Well, that was sorta the point- they're so far above us / so easily regenerated/repaired that they can let us wander around their ship because they have better things to do than worry about visitors who basically pose no threat whom they can probably assimilate whenever they want.

    Also part of the tension- they could turn on you at any moment if you got close to something sensitive (which is probably your goal if you're infiltrating a cube).

    However, they did seem to be less lenient the more often they encountered humanity (and Janeway in particular), it seems.

    As for standing to be shot at- that's actually a strong tactic for them because the more hits sacrificial drones take, the faster the personal shielding for the rest of the drones can adapt to your weapons fire (even rotating frequencies).

    They effectively force you to render your weapons useless which accelerates their ability to overcome your defenses and finish assimilating you.

    But, yeah, they were always space zombies- though this became more obvious after First Contact introduced the nanite injection method for assimilation (i.e.: "don't let them touch you").
     
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  25. redxavier

    redxavier Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I missed the discussion earlier, but I have a soft spot for Generations mainly because of the map room scene. It's rare that any of these films acknowledge gravity and they pay service to it here - the villain is destroying stars to alter the gravitational course of the nexus wave. It's also a good looking scene and I wish I had this kind of room in my house.