Amph New Battlestar Galactica Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Community' started by JediTrilobite, Jan 13, 2005.

  1. Darth Guy Chosen One

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    The way I see it is that she had to die to be transported great distances. The "God" of BSG is nowhere near omnipotent.

    1. She intentionally got her Viper crushed in "Maelstrom" (an angel convinced her to do it).
    2. She died and God resurrected her in orbit above Earth.
    3. Somehow she crashed her Viper and died. Was it an accident? If so, why didn't she eject? Was she knocked unconscious?
    4. She was resurrected in the Ionian Nebula.


    And it's not a deus ex machina. That plot device usually appears out of nowhere. They'd been setting up God since the miniseries.
  2. yankee8255 Force Ghost

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    wait, you have her dying twice. That can't be right.
  3. Darth Guy Chosen One

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    She had to have died twice.


    Her ship was crushed inside the gas giant. The producers have said that she did indeed die in that event. And her body was on Earth. Since she would have been pulverized along with her ship, that must mean she was resurrected at least twice.
  4. yankee8255 Force Ghost

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    My thought was that the storm that crushed her viper somehow acted as a wormhole and transported the crushed viper to earth.
  5. Darth Guy Chosen One

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    Hmm, that's plausible. Why didn't I think of that?
  6. yankee8255 Force Ghost

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    The thing that doesn't make sense to me about your idea is that if she was resurrected in orbit over earth, then died again, why wasn't she resurrected a second time when she returned to the fleet, rather than "only" being an "angel" who leaves once her mission/destiny is fulfilled?

    Admittedly, there isn't really much to back up my theory (in terms of comments from the producers, etc), but it just seems to me that the wreckage they found on earth would be consistent with what would be left over from the viper being crushed on the gas giant. Otheriwse you just have her viper crashing a second time (on earth) with no apparent cause.
  7. yankee8255 Force Ghost

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    I've gotten to episode 3 of Season 4 (ie the first regular episode of the season, after the Razor movie), and I have to say, the whole Starbuck thing is really shaky. Her real body and viper end up on Cylon Earth, then she is resurrected and given a nice shiny new viper with pictures of earth (which one?!) loaded on the camera. Huh?!!!!

    Speaking of Razor, I found it to be very good. Thinking back to the first few Pegasus episodes, and how I originally felt bad for the Gina copy. Looking back, she certainly didn't deserve any better than what she got (not that I condone what was done to her).
  8. Darth Guy Chosen One

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  9. yankee8255 Force Ghost

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    Seems to make clear that Shelley Godfrey was a cylon, not some kind of head-job. Still looking forward to where the frak she went.

    Now that the broadcast of Season 3 has wrapped up here in the German-speaking world, I've moved on to DVDs of Season 4. Razor was great, and I've liked the first 3 regular eps (especially Six of One), but the whole Starbuck being to earth makes even less sense than ever. I assume it was Cylon earth that she had on her Viper camera. But how the heck did she get back to the fleet? Why did she have to die to get to earth, with her Viper destroyed, but got back in a pristine Viper? I'll be blunt, I think the writers really dropped the ball there, it just doesn't make any sense at all.
  10. yankee8255 Force Ghost

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    I'm away on business tomorrow and Friday, am packing my 4.0 DVDs, will have a mini-marathon in my hotel room tomorrow.
  11. yankee8255 Force Ghost

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    The final season DVDs come out today, just got my shipment notification from amazon. [face_dancing]
  12. rsterling78 Jedi Grand Master

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  13. Quixotic-Sith Manager Emeritus

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    Look for the typo on the back cover. Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome.
  14. Jedi_Johnson Force Ghost

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    I'm jealous. My Bluray version is backordered.
  15. solojones Chosen One

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    I'm hoping to get both 4.0 and 4.5 for my birthday next week. Because I'm cheap.

    -sj loves kevin spacey
  16. Jedi_Johnson Force Ghost

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    I forgot to share my Nerd loot from Wizard World.

    [image=http://nerdsoftheroundtable.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/img_0124.jpg]

    EJO was the man, really cool to meet in person.
  17. Jack1138 Jedi Grand Master

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    Yet another show I need to catch up on. I did this with The Sopranos as well, just went out and bought the DVD's. :)
  18. Jedi_Johnson Force Ghost

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    So apparently Edward James Olmos has an idea/script that he's developed to continue Bill Adama's story after reaching Earth. At Comic Con he gave some good hints and talked about The Plan. Article is here
  19. icqfreak Force Ghost

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    So did anyone buy the blu-ray boxset??

    It's unfortunate that I have to save a ton of money for my wedding next year, as I would have definetly picked up that in a heartbeat. Maybe if it goes down in price I'll get it in a few months.
  20. GrandAdmiralJello Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque

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    I've kept my eyes on ebay for one of those rare absurdly cheap auctions. So far, no dice.
  21. yankee8255 Force Ghost

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    While I'm looking forward to The Plan, EJO's new idea seems like they're beating a dead horse. What's the plot going to be, pre-historic cavemen don't get the whole cycle thing and start trying to build a robot out of some rocks, twigs and straw? Though I'm all for it if the 6s and 8s all dress like cavewomen to better fit in with their new neighbors.:p
  22. Darth Guy Chosen One

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    The Season 4.5 set doesn't have the Gaeta-centric webisodes ("Face of the Enemy") set between "Sometimes A Great Notion" and "A Disquiet Follows My Soul." You know, the story that's enormously important to his character development and explains his decision to mutiny a whole lot better.

    ...

    I'm genuinely annoyed and disappointed by this. I didn't even bother to make sure the webisodes were on there because the other two sets were released on DVD. So I reasonably assumed that it would be the case with 4.5. Nope. What the ****?
  23. Jabba-wocky Chosen One

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    Those things just managed to confuse and irritate me anyway, so you'll see no tears from my corner.
  24. Darth Guy Chosen One

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    The other main character is Eight, Jay-dub. Two of them.
  25. GrandAdmiralJello Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque

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    Remember what happened to one of them?

    There's your answer.