ST New Canon Material (novels, TV shows, comics, games) and TFA

There's people who don't know anything about Star Wars except that a villain named Darth Vader says, "Luke, I am your father." to a hero named Luke Skywalker.

 

I'm not really sure what you're point is there? That Yoda is one of the most popular/iconic Star Wars characters, across a broad demographic and across numerous platforms/mediums, isn't a personal attack against fans of Luke, Obi-Wan and Jar Jar. I like Luke Skywalker too.

 

Vader says "No, I am your father" - he doesn't name Luke

 

Since Lucas himself handed down the Yoda arc to Filoni and company, doesn't what was shown and said in the arc make it seem that Arndt's script with a lot of Force Ghost action is different from Lucas' view. Maybe that's another reason he supported JJ and KK. Their version is closer to his intent even though both were based off of the same Lucas treatments.

 

I think you guys are forgetting that this arc was written before the Disney deal. None of the episodes were made by the TCW team with any knowledge of the story of Episode VII. I don't think we can place too much stock in these "hints."

 

I saw nothing in the TCW episodes that would have anything to do with Episode 7 anyway. It would seem that its sole purpose was to tie up loose ends from the PT; Sifo-Dyas, Qui-Gon's voice in AOTC and his reference in ROTS, and more of what Dooku's role was in the whole grand scheme of things.

Very nicely done, and of course anyone can try to read into things, but that's what I saw.

 

It's difficult to say, but I would guess that something that Lucas was creatively involved in (in terms of story and narrative) 12/18 months ago (in this case TCW) is possibly more likely to inform/influence the ST than the actual films he worked on 30 years ago (the OT). Conjecture of course... but I'd say it's very likely that some of the more philisophical elements of the Yoda arc will be present in the ST (assuming Lucas's influence is strong).

 

The "victory for all time" (or whatever that line was) hints towards an overall conclusion of the Star Wars saga, something that wasn't quite clear at the end of RoTJ. But the Yoda arc was very metaphysical, with a lot of philosophical theories - Nietzche's chaos in oneself and Sigmund Freud's dark side of human nature. ST might touch on these themes and the idea of individuals must find balance within themselves in order for the galaxy to be balanced (which is, like, uber deep).

What I liked the most was

Spoiler

the last Jedi Grand Master confronting the founder of the modern Sith Order. Unknown to them is both orders will be destroyed by the end of RoTJ; yet, I think it does hint that, like the Jedi post-Clone Wars, the Sith will always exist in some form or another. There fates are not separate and relay on each other to survive.

 

Honestly I tend to agree. Two of the arcs in the Season 6 stuff were great (Order 66 and of course Yoda), but I don't really see any of this as having that much to say about what we'll see in the ST. Having said that, though, I do think that a Yoda Force ghost in the ST would be both welcome and not surprising to see.

 

Nicely put...

 

Well, he confronted an illusion. So if you call that confronting, I suppose.

If anything, what may have been "hinted" at was the we may see a bit more of the netherworld aspects of the force, but that's something that I think a lot of folks around here are already banking on. It would be fun.

 

I think it will probably be more subtle, but no less signifiact, than what has been alluded to e.g. what the force is, who governs it, to what purpose... and the role of the force ghosts..

 

I agree that these episodes didn't have much to say about Episode VII but they did tell us a few things about what George was thinking about Yoda, force ghosts and Dagobah two or three years ago, which is probably around the time that he was plotting his sketches of the ST. How much of his original ideas from back then make it to the finished ST is an open question.

 

Yoda's origin and back story was a closely guarded secret by Lucas, apparently.

 

I agree.

Well we still don't know his origin or backstory. Just how he learned to be a Force Ghost.

 

Most likely Yoda will be the first to have a stand alone movie.

 

*cough* Sidious *cough*

 

As good as TCW was getting, I don't know if I would have wanted more. At least in that period of time in the galaxy. I am excited to move on to Rebels and see what that brings us.

 

Agreed. I feel like I got all I wanted from those last 4 episodes.

I'm pretty interested in what Rebels has to offer with E7 on the horizon. I plan on making it a regular daddy-daughter date-night.

 

If every single sapient life form in the galaxy "finds balance within themselves", meaning that nobody is a Palpatine, then the Force will be in balance? Well, that would be (trivially) true. But a balanced Force quite clearly would not depend on such a thing. The Force was in balance before it went out of balance, and when it was in balance it wasn't because literally everyone in the galaxy had found balance within themselves. There are always going to be hordes of "unbalanced" people.

The source of the imbalance in the Force is the Sith. You have to do something about the Sith to resolve the imbalance. If you don't get rid of the Sith, you can find balance within yourself all day long, but it won't matter because the Force will still be out of balance.

 

It would have felt complete if Maul's arc was tied up in this, and not in a comic. And I would have preferred it to lead right into Episode III.

The last few episodes were great and were a nice end to the series, despite my qualms.

 

Was just reading Dave Filoni's "thank you" on StarWars.com

At the end he writes:

Echo is a clone who supposedly died in the rescue of Master Even Piell from the Confederate prison. I am wondering why he is calling it a "spoiler". Will we see more clones later on in other media? Rebels? Ep 7?

Am I reading too much into it?

 

I wouldn't read too much into the arcs as far as Episode 7 hints are concerned. That's something that can be expected from Rebels maybe.

Other than that, I just have to say that after this series I have a tremendous amount of respect for all the Clonetroopers. They are definetly one of the best pieces of the series and I am somewhat disappointed we won't get to see more of them.

 

Does that sketch of Echo kinda look like Lobot to anyone else?