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Discussion in 'Communications' started by Indecent, Sep 9, 2002.

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  1. Indecent

    Indecent Jedi Youngling star 1

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    The recent LMM fiasco has generated a lot of negative threads. And yes, these threads ARE in the right place. However, also in this forum are suggestion threads, Mod Squad updates and much more. I'm sure that many of the people who post to topics here, do not want to be confronted with the debating of a mods suitability or lack thereof. But on top of that, these issues are vitally important to many people. people who want to see Justice servered. So maybe there should be a complaints section of communications... a new forum, where the more negative side of things can be dealt with, and we can save people the hassle of our little verbal jousts.

    Edit: topic resolved.
     
  2. SaberSlinger

    SaberSlinger Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Anything that is within the TOS, but can't be resolved via a simple PM, should be posted here.

    If you want to make "verbal jousts" with other users, make sure you're not going outside the TOS. Also, if you post in Communications, make sure it's actually a legit complaint.


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  3. Dan

    Dan Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Make it the DRAMA! Forum and let I_D moderate it.

    That is all for now.
     
  4. AmazingB

    AmazingB Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    That seems a bit superfluous, though. There are only so many types of threads that go in Comms, there's really not much of a reason to further specialize things.

    Amazing.
     
  5. Indecent

    Indecent Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Slinger... the problem is that communications acts as a catchall. This is hightligfhted by the recent situation provided by the LMM topic. Its been quite a heated debate at times, and to be blunt, a highly negative topic. People here at the JC don't always want to see negative topics, but a lot of the time they are necessary. And topic titles can often be misleading, so therefore, a forum dedicated to such negative threads would remove that atmosphere from communications, leaving it free for the regular suggestions et all to continue.
    Do not fear change. Embrace it :)
     
  6. GriffZ

    GriffZ Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Or people could just make their titles more clear as to what's being discussed...

     
  7. Indecent

    Indecent Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Indeed Griffz, but titles can be misinterpeted. I am thinking of those who find the discussion of the more 'dark' topics distasteful. They should be spared such topics by having them removed from that section to a more appropiate section. It would also make it easier for the administration to identify any problems.
     
  8. SaberSlinger

    SaberSlinger Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Um, pardon me for not seeing a point in this, but can you give us an example of something other than the LMM situation that would be suitable for this other forum but not for Communications?


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  9. Indecent

    Indecent Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Sure... complaints of threads being locked. I know this should be conducted over PM, but we all know that this is not alweays the case. If someone performs badly at the JC, this new forum would act as a base of notification... say you PM one Admin who the logs off. Your grievance will wait till he logs on... an hour? two? A day? more? This forums gives a base to let people know whats going on.
     
  10. GriffZ

    GriffZ Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Mods will answer your PMs much quicker than they will seek out threads in Evil Communications, I think.

     
  11. YodaJeff

    YodaJeff Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    If you PM a mod, and they log off...

    you could always [face_shocked] PM another mod!!!
     
  12. BYOB_Kenobi

    BYOB_Kenobi Jedi Master star 5

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    I disagree with Indecent on this issue. Sorry.
     
  13. JediStryker

    JediStryker Jedi Master star 4

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    will answer your PMs much quicker than they will seek out threads in Evil Communications, I think.

    [face_laugh]

    Boy, if this is good communications, then an evil one would destroy anyone who even looked at the threads there. ;)

    Seriously, there's no need for extraneous threads. It's not about being afraid of change; it's about being afraid of redundancy.
     
  14. Redundancy

    Redundancy Jedi Youngling star 1

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    There is no reason to be afraid of me. I don't bite.

    [hl=green] Redundancy[/hl] - seriously, I don't bite
    King of Everything Redundant
     
  15. JediStryker

    JediStryker Jedi Master star 4

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    :eek:

    You're the embodiment of everything the mods strive to destroy.

    ;)
     
  16. Indecent

    Indecent Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Seriously, there's no need for extraneous threads. It's not about being afraid of change; it's about being afraid of redundancy.

    I'll point out i'm not trying to be offensive :) gotta clear that up first :) But the point is, those threads are not extraneous... they will appear anyway, what I am suggesting is that they are given a more apt home.
     
  17. JediStryker

    JediStryker Jedi Master star 4

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    I wouldn't say you were trying to be offensive, but I for one don't really understand what threads you don't think belong here and why? And why it would be worth creating a whole new forum for it?
     
  18. Indecent

    Indecent Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Just in case my 'missing the point' comment was misconstrued. Not that people at the JC can be over sensitive.
    But I am suggesting that all threads of a negative tone be placed in said forum. Essentially to paraphrase an earlier post, a good communications and a bad. A light side and a dark to the force if you will. One forum will contain all the mod squad updates, the manual signature threads, whilst the other would contain all the angry threads et all
     
  19. Carter-TFN

    Carter-TFN Ex-Staff, Admin Emeritus star 4 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    And yes, these threads ARE in the right place.

    You answered you're own question why it's not necessary. There are negative threads in just about every forum here, and no one is immune to it.
     
  20. JediStryker

    JediStryker Jedi Master star 4

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    The thing is, Comms is hardly ever posted in. There are like times of heavy posting, and then it's dead for awhile. The mods are always on top of things here, and it stays relatively calm until a big issue comes up. I just can't see how a whole new forum would really help the situation; it would just be wasted space. :)
     
  21. Indecent

    Indecent Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Indeed carter, negative topics are scattered throughout the forums, like dissident rebellion forces throughtout the galaxy (Star Wars is on terristial TV tommorrow... I'm going all allagory on it). But the highest volume of topics that should not be locked is most definatley here. there are matters that many would like to discuss. And to that end, a new forum would facilitate this.
     
  22. Liz Skywalker

    Liz Skywalker Ex-Mod star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I don't see how a new forum is necessary. This forum is slow enough that there can be enough time taken for each thread. And, yes, some threads here are in the wrong place or could be handled by PMs, in which case the thread starter is informed of this.

    You said: I'm sure that many of the people who post to topics here, do not want to be confronted with the debating of a mods suitability or lack thereof.

    then they can just skip those threads. These debates are usually contained in one thread, which is easily avoidable if one does not care for the conversation at hand.



    You also said: So maybe there should be a complaints section of communications... a new forum, where the more negative side of things can be dealt with, and we can save people the hassle of our little verbal jousts.

    The Communications forum is just that: a forum for communications. Some of these communications are of the complaint nature and that's fine, as long as there's no flaming involved. You're allowed to complain, and this is the place for it if you feel that it should be righted.



    You furthermore said: People here at the JC don't always want to see negative topics,

    my experience has been the otherwise: that people here, like people all over, will flock to negative threads rather than positive threads. It's like a car crash. Everyone wants to add on to the gridlock to see such a horrid sight. And while some may be doctors who can help, others are just there to see what's going on and to maybe try to help if they can. And others are just there to see the mangled form of a human being being taken out of a wrecked car b/c they drank and drive (don't do that). The reason negative threads grow so large is b/c ppl *like* to post in them. It makes them feel like they did something to help out. Or, in some cases, they've helped build the case against a fellow board user.



    You said (I've run out of adverbs): And topic titles can often be misleading, so therefore, a forum dedicated to such negative threads would remove that atmosphere from communications, leaving it free for the regular suggestions et all to continue.

    but can't regular suggestions also contain complaints? Besides, like I said above, this forum is so slow that no one's time is really wasted by clicking on a thread and then alt-F4ing out of there.



    They should be spared such topics by having them removed from that section to a more appropiate section.

    This *is* the appropriate section. This is the place for communications b/w mods and members.


    It would also make it easier for the dministration to identify any problems.

    see above. I can assure you that I click on every current topic here and read it. You can bet that any new topics here are read by at least 5 mods within a reasonable span of time.



    But I am suggesting that all threads of a negative tone be placed in said forum.

    which would them most likely become a hotbed of flaming.


    But the highest volume of topics that should not be locked is most definatley here.

    threads are locked when their purposes are served.
     
  23. Indecent

    Indecent Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I may be way off base here, but don't you think the idea should receive some consideration before being dismissed out of hand?
     
  24. Darth-Stryphe

    Darth-Stryphe Former Mod and City Rep star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    So maybe there should be a complaints section of communications... a new forum, where the more negative side of things can be dealt with...

    And we could just make Internet_Drama the mod for that forum ;)
     
  25. Carter-TFN

    Carter-TFN Ex-Staff, Admin Emeritus star 4 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    But the highest volume of topics that should not be locked is most definatley here.

    Topics which lead to spam or degenerate into other issues are locked, and by that time the topic discussion has been answered.

    there are matters that many would like to discuss.

    This forum serves that purpose well.
     
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